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Geraldo, Coulter, & Estrich discuss the Rush Limbaugh 'Doctor Shopping" Case
At Large with Geraldo Rivera ^ | 1-3-04 | Geraldo Rivera

Posted on 01/04/2004 7:17:34 PM PST by Matchett-PI

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To: GulliverSwift
lol
41 posted on 01/04/2004 9:11:27 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (You know how those liberals are. Two's Company but three is a fundraiser.)
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To: Matchett-PI
I love your transcription! Reading it, I can almost hear Susan Estrich saying "Reeeeaallly bad" and Ann saying the bit about letting the liberals take over as well as Geraldo's strange, almost stuttering speech patterns.

But look at how little they really said in so much time. I don't think I can watch Geraldo's shows anymore. He's as pompous, self-absorbed and long-winded as O'Reilly is becoming.
42 posted on 01/04/2004 9:14:21 PM PST by arasina (<-------------too sensitive)
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To: Matchett-PI
the law is the law, as some might say.
43 posted on 01/04/2004 9:16:54 PM PST by glannon
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To: Matchett-PI
First of all, this 'doctor shopping' is bogus. How many senior citizens decide which doctor they like better? I mean this notion that they're gonna get him for going to two doctors in the same thirty-day period to dupe them into giving him the medication? I mean this is an utterly ridiculous charge.

I thought that doctor shopping was hunting out a doctor who would write the prescription you wanted (say Dr.X won't prescribe abc-tin or renew your prescription for abc-tin, keep getting diagnosises until you find one who will).

If a patient cannot go to multiple doctors then how is one supposed to get a "second opinion"?

There is also a bit of hypocrisy from the left over this. Lenny Bruce is still held up as a patron saint of free speech by the left and the documentary To Tell The Truth played up the notion that his drug busts were just a way to hassle Mr. Bruce; that his drugs were all by prescription (even though he had a letter that was basically a get out of jail free doctor's note). Lenny Bruce even denied his addiction in his own autobiography, saying that he used needles because he couldn't stomach asprin.

The actions of one do not clear another's name but the left has no consistancy on this issue. Lenny Bruce was a comedian. Lenny Bruce was a junkie (who died of his addiction). Lenny Bruce challenged social mores with speech. I don't see Lenny's comedy to be a left/right mentality thing, it's just that the left seems to hold him up as a virtuous man. The things that Rush Limbaugh says at times can be just as outrageous as what Lenny said and to do so in the era of political correctness is a daring thing.

44 posted on 01/04/2004 9:18:52 PM PST by weegee
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To: Captain Kirk
If Al Franken were being prosecuted for a personal crime (did not impact others) that no one else in his community was being charged with even though it occurred commonly, then I don't think that you would find FReepers shouting to lynch Al even if he is a lying liar.

Where was the FReeper outcry demanding prosecution of Oliver Stone or the producer of The West Wing for their drug offenses? And "civilians" in their communites are routinely charged with possession of illegal substances.

Does anyone think that Dr. Feelgood of the 1960s has gone away? There have always been doctors who would provide celebs (and nobodies) with the prescriptions they want, it's just a matter of finding those doctors.

Governor Jeb Bush's daughter was caught forging prescriptions to feed her addiction and FReepers felt sorry for her but didn't call for charges against her to be dropped. They did find it odd that articles about her arrest would cite the President of the US in the headline. Such articles ran for weeks yet Albert Gore Junior Junior's recent arrest for driving his car at night slow, without headlights off, while smoking pot got narry a mention.

There is a double standard to the coverage such stories receive but FReepers don't seem to call for different standards in prosecution.

45 posted on 01/04/2004 9:34:19 PM PST by weegee
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To: T'wit
I fail to see how Rush's drug addiction invalidates his take on the issues (just as Lenny Bruce's addiction doesn't detract from his observations, it's just that he reveals his autobiography to contain some fiction but many do).

(Unproven) "Hypocrisy" or not, what Rush says on the air is "right".

46 posted on 01/04/2004 9:40:36 PM PST by weegee
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To: expatpat
Selective prosecution should not come as a surprise. Just remember the amazing coincidence of how many of President Clinton's critics/accusers were audited by the IRS.
47 posted on 01/04/2004 9:42:38 PM PST by weegee
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To: LisaMalia
It's clear that Michael Jackson is a homosexual pedophile even if he has remained celebate in his desires. The media still seems to have questions about Michael's attraction to young boys.
48 posted on 01/04/2004 9:45:29 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
There was a raid on a bunch of Glass Blowers in Arcata Ca about the same time. They were mostly mfgs/wholesalers. I believe 4 of them are doing time at a Fed Prison in the mid-west...
49 posted on 01/04/2004 9:46:26 PM PST by tubebender
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To: Matchett-PI
An interesting excerpt from John Switzer's summaries of Rush's show in which he mentions his back pain and attempts to deal with it back in 1996.

Unofficial Summary of the Rush Limbaugh Show
for Friday, May 24, 1996
by John Switzer
This unofficial summary is copyright (c) 1996 by John Switzer (jswitzer@limbaugh.com). All Rights Reserved.

<<Because of the Memorial Day holiday, today's show is a "Best of Rush show." The first hour of today's show is a repeat of the first hour of the show that originally aired on Wednesday, April 24, 1996>>

FIRST HOUR

Items

o Rush is finally starting to feel like normal again, having gotten over both his cold and some back pain that he started having last Saturday morning. He awoke with the most excruciating pain he'd ever felt, and it didn't go away despite all the stretching exercises he tried.

Rush discovered that the position of least pain was looking straight down at the floor, adding for the sake of his staff, that he bent over at the neck, not at the waist. All throughout the weekend Rush agonized about this, and since he doesn't have a family doctor, he asked friends whom he should see.

His friends recommended a doctor who told him that he had a pinched nerve, and who prescribed some medication to help dull the pain. Other than that, all Rush could do was apply anti-inflammatory ointments, and he's eventually recovered.

However, the medication was so strong that for the past three days Rush has had to think real hard about what day of the week it was. Today, though, he's finally been able to think coherently without making a real effort.

Of course, Rush knows his listeners would never have known anything about his being impaired had he not told them, given how professional a broadcaster he is. He has to wonder how anyone could get stoned on drugs that make them feel like this.

The entire day's summary is linked here: Unofficial Summary of the Rush Limbaugh Show for Friday, May 24, 1996

50 posted on 01/04/2004 9:47:29 PM PST by Denver Ditdat
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To: Mulder
>>Charge in Limbaugh drug case rarely used, court records show

So what? Doesn't "the law is the law and should be always be enforced" still apply here?

Start clamoring for ALL enforcement of this law and I might consider reading the rest of your post. A partisan DA using Rush as the only prosecutorial example is a travesty of justice.

51 posted on 01/04/2004 9:48:01 PM PST by weegee
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To: tubebender
Brick and mortar storefronts are still selling bongs here in Houston.
52 posted on 01/04/2004 9:50:05 PM PST by weegee
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To: Denver Ditdat
Thanks. No "law and order" diatribe here. The summary shows a philosophical discussion about legalization of drugs, not a sermonette about jailing druggies. Rush loves philosophical questions, as do his conservative listeners.

The day he starts venting about sending criminals to prison and adding new police powers is the day I stop listening. But he won't. His whole message is social optimism and the limitless opportunity for free Americans to make it on their own, free of government help or hindrance.

Anyway, there is no "conservative" position on legalization. Conservatives can and do disagree on this, and have debated the question for a very long time. The usual points were brought out in the discussion you cited, that drug abuse is destructive, but that prohibition never works. So what do you do, legalize and perhaps encourage destructive behavior? Or retain a ban on drugs as at least a reminder that drug abuse is not good for society? There's no decisive answer.

53 posted on 01/04/2004 10:13:28 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals are always wrong, even when they come down on both sides of the issue.)
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To: weegee
>> I fail to see how Rush's drug addiction invalidates his take on the issues

You're right. It doesn't. It would be desperate to claim that it did. He puts his views on the line every day. Refute them or not the old-fashioned way, please, with facts and logic -- not by attacking his character.

We might add that he did astoundingly well in presenting his views despite the pain-killers. They did not mess up his mind. If he had started stumbling either in his speech or in his thinking, we'd never have heard the end of it.

54 posted on 01/04/2004 10:19:58 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals are always wrong, even when they come down on both sides of the issue.)
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To: cartoonistx
if Rush was not selling these drugs or providing them to others I don't see why the government should care to prosecute. The only one being harmed was Rush.

So you believe the people selling the drugs to RL should be prosecuted? While he gets a pass?

55 posted on 01/04/2004 10:28:57 PM PST by Nanodik (Libertarian, Ex-Canadian)
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To: T'wit
The only Rush Limbaugh quote any Rush-hating Liberal can dredge up is one from 1995 and they take it utterly and completely out of context. This of course predates his history of back problems, taking scripts and losing his hearing.
56 posted on 01/04/2004 10:32:32 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: BigSkyFreeper
If I recall, it was one of those "hippie dope freak" kind of quotes during one of his "homeless updates" segments.
57 posted on 01/04/2004 10:34:42 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Matchett-PI
seems like I had more informtion here on FR than on this clip.

Susan does seem to be espousing the DNC talking point for pegionholing Rush: the repeated use of the word "hypocrit."

And for the record susan, this can be prosecutorial misconduct. They also are clueless about the FL constitution. The privacy amendment was mad FOR medical privacy. It was made in anticipation of Roe being overturned.

The prosecutor has higher BAR ethical considerations too. There is an argument to be made that as a public official, if it looks like impropriety it IS impropriety.

Surprised that Ann did not give a more pithy reparte.
58 posted on 01/04/2004 11:35:33 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Nanodik
So you believe the people selling the drugs to RL should be prosecuted?

I was speaking of the Doctors involved with this case. I assume you're refering to his maid, who I do believe deserves to be prosecuted for selling drugs illegally (as well as being a blackmailer if this is proved to be true).
59 posted on 01/05/2004 12:05:46 AM PST by cartoonistx
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To: Matchett-PI
Susan is a dingbat and stieffled herself in Anns presence.. at least she ain't stupid in that sense, pretty smart really.. Susan must've watched as Ann bitch slapped O'Reilly over Joseph McCarthy... Jerralo lead the conversation into a confusing mishmash as expected... but was probably jealous of O'Reilly..
60 posted on 01/05/2004 12:25:24 AM PST by hosepipe
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