Gay characters no hit in kiddie lit; `The Trouble With Babies' is latest example

The Charlotte Observer (registration required) ^ | 1/4/03 | JOSH GETLIN - Los Angeles Times

[skinkinthegrass]

Much of this is religious intoleration..."Mohammed has 20 Mommies"..."Tammy's Mommy goes Bahhhhhhh."

ROFLPIMP!!!

[RedMonqey]

"It is to be expected that the "gay culture" will keep inserting itself where it shouldn't."


But THAT is their PROBLEM in the FIRST PLACE! LOL

[SerpentDove]

>>"The story I wrote had nothing to do with gay issues, and the reference to those fathers was strictly in the background, to show you the kind of people who live on a city block." <<

Nah, couldn't be part of an agenda. There just "happened" to be two gay guys in the background, almost inconspicuous-like.

/sarcasm

[sunshine state]

First of all, I am a conservative person who is a children's librarian. I do not have an agenda (unless you count getting children excited about reading and helping them and their parents with school assignments) and I am not scum!
Now, let me say this about ordering children's books. Librarians depend on review journals to assist them with deciding what to purchase. Most of us (the good ones anyway) make decisions based on the community using the library, i.e. highly educated, mostly immigrant population,types of leisure activities, assignments from the public schools, etc. The whole point is to use your budget wisely, matching the available funds with the needs of the community.
Some libraries might have patrons who wish to read about gay parents; others do not. Again many librarians will make the decision based on what their community wants, not on their own preferences, although sometimes the decision is made for them (like Madonna's book - very few librarians in my system wanted to buy that, but because it was on the NYT's Bestseller's List, the system bought it).
Quite frankly, nobody wants unhappy patrons. If I read a review and I think it's not a match for my library, I don't buy it.

[SerpentDove]

"Or you could be really PC by writing a book called "Mohammed has two Gods" which would serve to help normalize polytheism among Islamists..."

LOL

[reg45]

to show you the kind of people who live on a city block.

I wonder if she mentioned the evil couple (man and wife) who live on her block, drive a Chevy Suburban and voted for George W. Bush.

[sunshine state]

Let me add that I'm also making sure that my library buys adult books such as "Mexifornia" by Victor Davis Hanson, "Onward Muslim Soldiers" by Robert Spence (?), and Oliver North's book "War Stories: Operation Iraqi Freedom". I also made sure that we purchased "Persecution" by David Limbaugh which had somehow been "overlooked" even thought it also was on the NYT's Bestseller List

[truthandjustice1]

"The Trouble With Cats"

Don't they eat gerbils? Isn't that problem?

[truthandjustice1]

"altered" (?) me almost 25 years ago about NAMBLA

I suspect you mean "alerted" :)

[Publius6961]

"The story I wrote had nothing to do with gay issues, and the reference to those fathers was strictly in the background, to show you the kind of people who live on a city block."
This is remarkable. Since it's been over a generation, now, since the gays' plea for tolerance turned a monster loose on society, it's easy to forget the role that they have played in the destruction of our language and in the perversion of our common sense, among other things. They can make nonsensical contradictory statements in a single sentence and nobody notices.

...asked her to produce a third installment, and she has not decided whether to retain the gay fathers, as an act of independence, or eliminate them in an effort to sell more books.
Too late Martha baby, you made your decision when you decided to shoot off your mouth. It doesn't much matter if your need to mention gays is a pathology or unconsciousness, or simply mindless PC, your arrogance is showing. An act of independence now would be good. And the want ad section of your local newspaper too. By the way, are any (or all) of your children accidentally gay?

... My future earnings could be hurt if I keep these two gay characters in the plot. So what should I do?"
This loser's need to be arrogant is making her sound really screwed up. Whatever happened to the "gays were not part of the story they were just tossed in matter of factly to show who lived on the block?" Suddenly the gay characters are part of the plot? Yeah, Makes sense, I don't want this pervert propagandist teaching my kids anything directly or by subterfuge.

At a time when gay culture is gaining wider acceptance in American society -- as reflected in television shows, movies, magazines, fashion trends and recent court decisions --
Ha ha ha *chuckle*. No gay agenda? Good grief! Here we have the classic technique of all propaganda, state your desired result over and over as a reported "fact" and promote a feeling of powerlessness and "inevitabily" in the opposition. I increasingly hear the phrase "back in the closet" over the last several years, and this poor victim has no clue...
"...television shows, movies, magazines, fashion trends..."???? This is proof of increasing acceptance? or increasing activism? Pervert shows continue to be spectacularly ignored and cancelled, yet the author continues her pretext of "objectivity". What's wrong with this picture?

[Paleo Conservative]

A brief passage buried in the book about two gay fathers and their adopted son apparently had discouraged many librarians from buying the title.

Huh? I thought librarians were trying to push this garbage.

[Publius6961]

Lefties are really dense on this issue, no matter how many times it is explained to them with really small words and clear examples. I know, from discussions on this with Lefties I engage on a neutral board..

Why do you keep wasting your time? As soon as I realized that some people are apparently incabable of grasping such simple concepts as "censorship" I simply tell them that there is no point in further discussion. Let them fade back into the closet in their delusion.

[Publius6961]

Are you aware that your last sentence contradicts everything you tap danced about in the rest of your lengthy reply? Perhaps you can collaborate with Martha, since you both confuse dissimulation with subtlety.

[pa_dweller]

"You could have knocked me over with a feather," Freeman said recently at her home near Penn State University. "The story I wrote had nothing to do with gay issues, and the reference to those fathers was strictly in the background, to show you the kind of people who live on a city block."

So, if it's such a commonplace thing, why even mention it?

"For some readers, the mere use of the word `gay' is inappropriate, and they can't separate the word from the idea of sex," said Mary Cash, Holiday House's executive editor.

Sorry Mary, words mean things. The word 'gay' as used in today's context literally shouts (deviant) SEX. Are we to assume a different physical relationship for homosexual 'married' couples as against traditional married folks?

[FreedomPoster]

>>Why do you keep wasting your time?

There are a lot of lurkers. It's really easy to make the Lefties look like fools, and there are a lot of undecided / in the middle folks out there that can be influenced.

Believe me, I don't think I'm going to convert the extremist Lefties.

[TaxRelief]

But alas, they decided to make it my business. They insisted upon defining themselves by their sexuality and adopted an "in your face" approach towards their lifestyle that is just plain repulsive to me. Furthermore, they insisted upon making their lifestyle not only "normal" but actually "cool" and "trendy" through the manipulation of our mass culture (movies, magazines, music, etc.)

Now I have been turned from somebody who was willing to be tolerant of them to somebody who has become hostile to their perverse agenda.

Well put. You have summarized my own experience perfectly.

[mvpel]

Have you got a copy of "Preachers of Hate" and "Evil: An Investigation?" I'm reading them now, and they're quite interesting.

[Hildy]

My cousin just told me a story about her friends, a lesbian couple, who adopted a baby girl 15 years ago. Today, that 15 year old girl is in a 10 month rehab program for drugs, alcohol and cutting herself. I'm torn on this issue.

[Prime Choice]

Censorship or the market speaking?

It's the market speaking. There's no censorship in play at all. The author is still at liberty to write such rubbish...and her publisher is still at liberty to decide for themselves whether or not they want to print it.

If the publisher decides it's not profitable to print the rubbish due to public outcry, then those are the breaks. I've had some writings rejected for publication, but that doesn't mean I'm a "victim of censorship." It means the publisher didn't they my stuff would sell. Same story with this author if she keeps up this pro-gay agenda geared toward children.

[CyberAnt]

This is just the continuing "right to be heard" stuff. No one is restricting her from writing whatever she wants .. right ..?? But .. the library also has the RIGHT not to read it!!

The RIGHT TO SPEAK is not related to the RIGHT TO BE HEARD. Freedom of speech is just that - the right to speak. No where in the Constitution does it guarantee the right to be heard.