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Scientists closely monitoring Yellowstone. 200 degree ground temperatures reported.
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Posted on 01/01/2004 8:33:27 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: idkfa
And, roughly 10 million years ago, the Yellowstone volcano did blow - near Idaho.
Sounds like the right one.
461
posted on
01/02/2004 3:35:44 PM PST
by
Robert A Cook PE
(I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
To: Paul C. Jesup; Iris7
But that much ash would damage crops --- not forver, but for several seasons certainly.
It's a problem, but not a crisis.
And besides, what can you prevent?
If you try to "vent" the thing....but it's already overpressurized, you end up blowing it prematurely but into a disaster anyway.
You blow it too early, and you've done no good - since it might have have blown 40-400-4000 years from now anyway, and not have caused damage then because they could handle a "minor volcano" at that time!
(What will the capability of the human rce in 40 years? In 400 yers? In 4000 years?)
462
posted on
01/02/2004 3:41:11 PM PST
by
Robert A Cook PE
(I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
To: Johnny_Cipher
If this was a movie the hero would be working on a way to gradually relieve the pressure so she doesn't blow.
463
posted on
01/02/2004 3:44:04 PM PST
by
JimRed
(Disinformation is the leftist's and enemy's friend; consider the source before believing.)
To: EUPHORIC
Is it 'don't read the messages before replying day' or what.
I was talking about eastern Ohio, do you know how far eastern Ohio is to Yellowstone Park.
To: JimRed
Oops, that's what happens when you reply to an early post on a 450+ thread. Good ol' repetition.
465
posted on
01/02/2004 3:47:59 PM PST
by
JimRed
(Disinformation is the leftist's and enemy's friend; consider the source before believing.)
To: Happy2BMe
466
posted on
01/02/2004 3:50:05 PM PST
by
BunnySlippers
(Help Bring Colly-fornia Back ...)
To: Robert A. Cook, PE
If you try to "vent" the thing Large pipes driven into the ground with multi-ton steam bobblers hissing on top. Still seems like a workable plan.
467
posted on
01/02/2004 3:52:35 PM PST
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Ash can enrich the soil, so when all is said and done, the soil will be more fertial than it is right now.
To: Rebelbase
Someone said earlier something to the effect of that being like trying to crack an engine block with a firecracker.Which makes sense--particularly with respect to suitcase nukes (which have yields of about .5 kiloton, IIRC). But what about a big nuclear device of, say, 1 megaton or larger? The most powerful nuclear device ever detonated, the Tsar Bomba, was close to 50 megatons but was based on a design yield of 100 megatons.
Drop a megaton-range device with a hardened casing from altitude so that it burrows deep into a natural fissure in the park, and detonate it. Might it not "crack the engine block"?
This may seem like foolish conjecture, but it does point up the wisdom of keeping Muslim militants from ever gaining access to nuclear weapons and delivery systems. I do not believe such a scenario would be beyond them. As desperate as they are to usher in a worldwide Muslim apocalypse, they might well relish the opportunity.
469
posted on
01/02/2004 4:02:49 PM PST
by
Kevin Curry
("When I was growing, we didn't even treat the servants like servants." Andree Dean, Howie's mom)
To: RightWhale
The problem is that the Yellowstone magma chamber is like a rubber balloon with a weight on top of it (the top of the caldera). If you try to releave the pressure, the weight on top, pushing down, causes so much pressure that you have a high risk of losing control of the pressure valve and thus creating a full scale eruption of the caldera itself.
To: bolobaby
A special type of Magma/Lava; Rhyolite shows all over the place where eroded from previous flows proves by the sheer mass of it that it certainly did break the surrounding surface area to leave plenty of evidence of last emergence!
471
posted on
01/02/2004 4:09:54 PM PST
by
winker
To: PAR35
Good point on the ocean level dropping.
Never bought into the Y2K hype. Spam should be on the worry list! There is some tuna(low dolphin content?),anchovies,or sardines in the cupboard or left over New Years ham in the 'fridge. Choices, Choices...
To: Paul C. Jesup
There has to be an engineering solution. If pressure relief pipes would get blown out at considerable speed, then perhaps something that would bleed off heat and perhaps generate power at the same time would do it. The project could pay for itself by feeding the power grid.
473
posted on
01/02/2004 4:23:38 PM PST
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
To: Happy2BMe
600,000 year eruption cycle. The last blow was 640,000 years ago. I think we could be in deep doo doo. We are living on borrowed time.
474
posted on
01/02/2004 4:29:45 PM PST
by
jetson
To: RightWhale
I am sure there is an engineering solution, I am just not sure if we have building materials (steel (alloys), cement/concrete, titanium (alloys), and modern ceramics) that can do the job right now.
In ten years or so, sure, with nano-carbon fibers (with metal alloys and ceramics mixed in), harvested spider-silk and mass-produced diamonds.
But right now I am unsure.
To: RightWhale
nano-carbon fibers = carbon-nano-tubes.
To: jetson
600,000 year eruption cycle. The last blow was 640,000 years ago. I think we could be in deep doo doo. We are living on borrowed time.
No kidding Sherlock. ;D
To: Paul C. Jesup
It would be something we haven't attempted before. Really big, maybe bigger than any engineering project so far. A lot of new tech might have to be developed. A lot of new engineers would have to be graduated. Materials science would have to advance. Sooner or later, if we expect to be masters of this planet, we'll have to be able to deal with things like this.
478
posted on
01/02/2004 4:54:49 PM PST
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
To: jetson
"The last blow was 640,000 years ago." What's a thousand years or so?
It really biffs me though that it's killing my trout (forget the people).
479
posted on
01/02/2004 5:35:09 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
To: RightWhale; Paul C. Jesup
" A lot of new engineers would have to be graduated." Why can't we just import them?
480
posted on
01/02/2004 5:36:31 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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