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How Illegal Aliens are Bankrupting and Disenfranchising the American Middle and Working Classes
A Different Drummer/Middle American News ^ | December, 2003 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 12/28/2003 10:49:51 AM PST by mrustow

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To: Zipporah
..and we've not even addressed the issue of Azlan.

Yep, a perfect conduit for foreign subversion and overthrow of the US government.

81 posted on 12/28/2003 12:20:44 PM PST by JudgemAll
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To: gawd
why was it OK to take in unlimited quantities of Irish and Italians 100 years ago, but heavily restrict Mexicans today.

100 years ago, taxpayers were NOT paying to *translate* everything into Itailian.......Yea, mexicans are *so heavily restricted today* that EVERY STATE has to 'press 1 for English'.

After all, most Irish immigrants back then were poorer and more illiterate than a lot of the mexicans. what is your rationale and the moral justification?

WELFARE. & all the 'other perks' taxpayers are FORCED to pay.

82 posted on 12/28/2003 12:21:58 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: nmh
As for illegals taking American jobs I ask you: Why aren't AMERICANS taking these jobs? Is it because AMERICANS are DEMANDING too much money for a job that doesn't warrant it?

Nope. This is because OF MINIMUM WAGE!!!!

WE AMERICANS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE PAID LOWER THAN MINIMUM WAGE.... BUT THE ILLEGALS CAN!!!!

83 posted on 12/28/2003 12:22:03 PM PST by JudgemAll
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To: txdoda
Agree with that. "Walking in from any country" would be illegal. I also agree on Background checks. I do believe Legal Immigrants have to undergo those.
84 posted on 12/28/2003 12:22:51 PM PST by americanbychoice
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To: gawd
to allow for the assimilation of earlier immigrants. you really believe that?

Yes, it is not merely resources, but time too is a factor. Assimilation and respect of a country takes time.

85 posted on 12/28/2003 12:23:48 PM PST by JudgemAll
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To: DumpsterDiver
However, without a Soc.Sec. number he/she will never be able to contribute and have peace of mind?
86 posted on 12/28/2003 12:24:11 PM PST by americanbychoice
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To: karen999
Excellent post! But I dare say that "gawd" won't present a logical and legitimate answer to ANY of the above-mentioned points.

Anyone else here smell a dem troll?
87 posted on 12/28/2003 12:24:49 PM PST by liberallyconservative
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To: gawd
So you're all for rewarding queue jumping scofflaws?
88 posted on 12/28/2003 12:26:00 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: americanbychoice
Even the average American should be able to charge illegals with trespassing his tax payer paid public safety ownership. After all the roads are ours. Notwithstanding the illegal export taxes basicaly paid to illegal foreign services.
89 posted on 12/28/2003 12:26:08 PM PST by JudgemAll
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To: gawd
Ever heard of Irish bootleggers? Italian mafia? Al Capone?>>>>>>

You lost me........I don't think my ancestors were TAXED to fund bootleggers, the mafia, or Capone.
90 posted on 12/28/2003 12:26:21 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: karen999
You failed to mention that 100 years ago...
immigrants were needed to tend vast tracts of uncultivated land (food production) & to contribute to the expanding manufacturing base.
that's not a need today
91 posted on 12/28/2003 12:28:24 PM PST by AlBondigas
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To: AlBondigas
Their property purchase restrictions depend on who you are. A very well known singer had his "south of the border" beachside hacienda prominently featured on MTV Cribs. He owned the beachfront as far as the eye could see...
92 posted on 12/28/2003 12:30:55 PM PST by liberallyconservative
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To: mrustow
Illegals are "unassimilable," have destroyed our schools, shut our emergency rooms, made housing unaffordable, denied legals the ability to work in the sweat shop of their choice, and to top it off, create rotten boroughs because they don't vote. But hey, I keep reading around here that they are voting in droves (depriving such Great Americans as Bob Dornan of his rightful place in Congress). Whatever.

What is conspicuously missing is the bit about illegals pushing down the cost of goods and services. Nope, there is no silver lining for the Man On the Other Side of the River "Stix;" it just all sucks because he told you so. And I know he's right, because he quotes Paul Craig Roberts, and Roberts is always "Right."

93 posted on 12/28/2003 12:30:57 PM PST by Torie
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To: txdoda
WELFARE. & all the 'other perks' taxpayers are FORCED to pay.

I don't believe you. if this was about welfare you'd be dismantling the welfare state instead of black-sheeping immigrants. this is about keeping "wetbacks" OUT. pure and simple.

94 posted on 12/28/2003 12:31:00 PM PST by gawd
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To: mrustow
BUMP the Illegal Invaders OUT, and let's get back to being America.
95 posted on 12/28/2003 12:31:46 PM PST by CIBvet (It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
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To: gawd
I'm hungry, what time is dinner?
96 posted on 12/28/2003 12:32:34 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: liberallyconservative
Anyone else here smell a dem troll?

I'm most definitely not a troll. is that how you treat everyone you lose an argument with?

97 posted on 12/28/2003 12:32:52 PM PST by gawd
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To: gawd
so why is everyone here obsessing about immigration when they should be dismantling the welfare state instead?>>>>>>


Bootin' the illegals (and the perks they get FREE), will put a dent in our 'welfare state'.

98 posted on 12/28/2003 12:34:05 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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20,000,000 x 3 kids/per = 100,000,000
99 posted on 12/28/2003 12:35:00 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals (Illegal Immigration/Amnesty- The administrations' War on Middle Class Republicans)
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To: liberallyconservative
Believe yer wrong. It's unconstitutional fer ferinners to own in the 2 zones. A 30 yr. lease is possible.
100 posted on 12/28/2003 12:35:17 PM PST by AlBondigas
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