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Homebuyers beware: Farms will fill the senses (ROFL ---- DUH Alert)
St. Cloud Times ^ | 12/22/03 | Kirsti Marohn

Posted on 12/24/2003 6:40:43 AM PST by coder2

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:21:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: VetoBill
Doesn't have to be a large operation, just has to rain and stay humid for a couple days... I guarantee you will smell something from more and a few feet away

I suspect you are smelling something only in your head. Purely by suggestion. I have horses, cattle, llamas, emus, exotic fowl, and plenty of dogs around me. I don't have a problem at all. Can't even say all the coyote or mountain lion or deer poop is a problem. The only regular smell I have is the meanderings of a skunk which passes thru about every two weeks. That one gets your attention.
BTW- Walking home in light rain last night from neighbors house, I saw 3 neat deer in his horse pasture- one had a nice rack.
61 posted on 12/24/2003 10:57:22 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: ridesthemiles
I love it when yuppies build their houses on five acre parcels of a farm that was sold and divided up, then bitch and moan when the "scenic" farm across the road from them is sold to be divided up for more yuppies like them.

They attend all sorts of zoning meetings against the sale of the farm across the road. They write letters to the Editor about how urban sprawl is ruining their lives. On and on.

Priceless.

62 posted on 12/24/2003 10:59:00 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: alfa6
The kids wanted to know what the smell was and the wife, who is an old farm girl, said "Dinner".


There is a similar place on I-5 between Los Angeles and Sacramento- Harris Ranch. Their feed lots there hold a maximum of 106,000 cattle if they are full. That's right- 106,000. They also have horses and cowboys who are continually sorting them with shipments coming and going.
Their restaurant cooks fresh every day with the ingredients they raise in addition to the beef. I once counted the hanging signs and got over 40 items. Onions, nuts, carrots, broccoli, etc. Some of the best food you have ever tasted since you got to get meals from your granny who had her own garden.
When I have been driving with city people and they comment on the odor in that mile radius, I give them the same answer.....Prime Rib.
Harris Ranch beef is excellent. If your store carries it, try some. Also Miller Blue Ribbon beef from Utah, Nevada and other locations.
63 posted on 12/24/2003 11:04:15 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: rintense
Not really subsidies. I guess I'm more of a romantic traditionalist. I thought people farmed because they loved working on the land and took pride in providing food to Americans. Guess those ideals are a thing of the past.

You are correct- Ranchers and farmers have a "calling" for what they do and they love doing it.
What causes them a great deal of grief are the overburden of regulations put into place by city slickers, most of them inside the Congress or state legislatures. The regs are usually not well thought out and are more than burdensome. A rancher needs to spend his time ranching-not filling out paperwork to satisfy some bureaucrat.
Add all the regs to the taxes and the estate taxes imposed when the grandparents die, and you have the "perfect storm" scenario for the demise of the farms and ranches in the USA which have fed this country and many others for years and years. Look at the mess in Africa with the white being driven off the farms. There is no production happening afterwards for a variety of reasons. An already hungry nation if now even more unable to feed itself.
Mark my words- IF YOU DON'T LIKE BEING HELD HOSTAGE TO OTHER COUNTRIES FOR YOUR OIL---WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE HELD HOSTAGE FOR YOUR FOOD.
Then you will hysterically demand the farmer and rancher instantly start producing for you again--on land that is concreted over. GOOD LUCK.
64 posted on 12/24/2003 11:14:05 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: ridesthemiles
I maintain if the DEAT TAX were abolished

I meant DEATH TAX sorry for not proofing
65 posted on 12/24/2003 11:15:56 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: iowafarmboy
Land for land; acre for acre; There is more chemical, herbicide, and pesticide use in a suburban residential area than in my corn field. Especially if the "Lawn and Garden" companies apply it for you.

AMEN Almost all city residents don't have a clue. They only want their "landscaping" to look nicer than the guy next door.
66 posted on 12/24/2003 11:16:59 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: ridesthemiles
Well I guess my owning, living and operating a feedlot gives me absolutely no insight into animal smells. Let me apologize for thinking that 45 years of being around animals gives me any insight into this situation. Ten cows will cause a smell, and ten cows is not a large operation. If you have one animal perhaps a very faint odor, but any place that has one animal is not a farm, it is a hobby.
67 posted on 12/24/2003 12:48:54 PM PST by VetoBill (Who is the actor that plays Dan Rather?)
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To: coder2
We also have a "Right to Farm Ordinance." http://ordlink.com/codes/siskiyou/index.htm In effect, it limits what practices can be considered nuisances:

Sec. 10-11.03. Nuisance.
No agricultural activity, operation or facility or appurtenances thereof, conducted or maintained for commercial purposes, and in a manner consistent with proper and accepted customs and standards and with all chapters of this code, as established and followed by similar agricultural operations, shall be or become a nuisance, public or private, pursuant to this code after the same has been in operation for more than three (3) years, if it was not a nuisance when it began. (§ I, Ord. 90-28, eff. October 25, 1990)

Countywide, minimum zoning for an ag parcel is 40 acres. Developments with septic tanks must have a 5 acre minimum. In addition, my particular area has a longstanding restrictive zoning plan. It limits development to fringe areas off the valley floor and protects prime ag lands. (This has caused some fire problems with development in wildland/urban interface.)

It will all fall apart when the coho is State listed. The DFG is trying to force minimum instream flows by restricting and managing irrigation from surface water. The Yuroks want to ekliminate any further development of groundwater. (County will NOT go there.) If the farmers and ranchers can't get adequate water, they can challenge their zoning and the whole area falls to retirement subdivisions.

We had one woman more next to a dairy. She didn't like the smell and tried complaining to all the local agencies. She had no cause, so she finaly when to the water quality control board and complained about water pollution. They came out and ispected. The system was found to be state of the art. It had actually been designed by the Natural Resource Conservation Service and the Water Quality Control Board.
68 posted on 12/24/2003 12:56:15 PM PST by marsh2
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To: ridesthemiles
I live and work in an area surrounded by farmland. I filter my water and I buy organic vegetables/products.
69 posted on 12/29/2003 5:54:41 AM PST by sarasota
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