Beads of Doubt: Second Law of Thermodynamics Untrue? -

BBC - UK ^ | December 18, 2003 | Dr David Whitehouse

[Alamo-Girl]

It looks very interesting, TexOkie! Thanks for the ping!

[Wonder Warthog]

"QED! Now I ask you, what could be a simpler and more elegant proof than that???"

Ah, yes---a typical "biblical creationist" proof---no science whatsoever involved.

Again--if your perspective of the Second Law were correct, then physical phenomena that ARE KNOWN TO OCCUR would be impossible (such as life itself--not just evolution).

Now, life obviously DOES exist, so your proof is obviously wrong.

[Drawsing]

Those who suggest life had a natural origin expect that there was some process of chemical evolution that produced it, not "random chance".

With respect, I still maintain it is reasonable to posit a designer for the appearance of design rather than "some process".

[longshadow]

entropic placemarker

[VadeRetro]

That's exactly what is happening, not only to the Second Law of Thermodynamics but to all of knowledge. In the not-too-distant future, the noise level will have swamped all signal everywhere and no one will know anything.

[RightWhale]

Thereby proving Predestination is fallacious, even if not absurd. Who could be predestined to use a piece of grammar to prove a law of science?

[Boot Hill]

Wonder Warthog sez:   "Ah, yes---a typical 'biblical creationist' proof---no science whatsoever involved."

LOL, WW, you are wound waaaaay too tight! Post 192 was obviously in jest! (Interesting to see who got it and who didn't, though.)

--Boot

[Boot Hill]

VadeRetro quips:   "In the not-too-distant future, the noise level will have swamped all signal everywhere and no one will know anything."

reokvm, mvti t.we[pw83 mckjdh ytophk fdgey!!!

--Boot

[VadeRetro]

That's you isn't it, effdot?

[Boot Hill]

RightWhale extrapolates:   "Thereby proving Predestination is fallacious, even if not absurd."

It had to be thus!

--Boot

[Boot Hill]

"That's you isn't it, effdot?"

Oops, now I'm the one not getting it!

--Boot Hill

[VadeRetro]

Oops, now I'm the one not getting it!

For a bit there, your posting style resembled that of former freeper f.Christian ("effdot").

[Boot Hill]

Ah, so. Barely remember him. No relation, though.

--Boot

[Boot Hill]

Boot Hill sez:   "Post 192 was obviously in jest!"

Well, 90% in jest!

--Boot Hill

[RightWhale]

your posting style resembled that of former freeper f.

Not unless the former poster started taking syntax meds.

[Wonder Warthog]

"LOL, WW, you are wound waaaaay too tight! Post 192 was obviously in jest! (Interesting to see who got it and who didn't, though.)"

Hey, you only THINK it was in jest--I've seen stuff from the "BC" crowd that was even more incoherent, and which they expect to have taken seriously.

[Boot Hill]

Wonder Warthog sez:   "Hey, you only THINK it was in jest..."

How would I know? Thanks to entropy, my thinking is becoming more and more disordered, even as we speak. But with any luck, time reversal will take over and what is random incoherence today will become a blinding stroke of genius tomorrow!

Merry Christmas --Boot Hill

[Wonder Warthog]

"But with any luck, time reversal will take over and what is random incoherence today will become a blinding stroke of genius tomorrow!"

Hey, I suspect that on the quantum level, even time will turn out to be reversible--so there IS hope for you.

[Virginia-American]

biological evolution, a theory where biological systems supposedly ignore entropy.

Please explain this in detail. Preferably by doing actual calculations of the quantities involved.

If you can't, one can only surmise you're talking through your hat.

PS don't confuse evolution and the origin of life in your calculations.

[Muleteam1]

>>Please explain this in detail. Preferably by doing actual calculations of the quantities involved. If you can't, one can only surmise you're talking through your hat.<<

And if you can, one can only assume the same.

Your reply is not requested, as I am quite sure that neither of us will be convinced. However, thank you for your reply.

Muleteam1