Fort Lewis soldiers kill 11 in firefight

The News Tribune - Tacoma, WA ^ | Tuesday, December 16, 2003 | MICHAEL GILBERT

[Cannoneer No. 4]

Two Iraqi missiles believed to be Al Fatah surface-to-surface missiles with a range of more than 90 miles lie in a culvert after Stryker brigade soldiers found them Monday.

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Stryker Brigade Combat Team Tactical Studies Group (Chairborne)

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[LibKill]

Well done!

[serurier]

Good news!

[FreedomPoster]

>>Because of the crowds of schoolchildren, a platoon sniper did much of the shooting, apparently killing seven of the gunmen who fired on the convoy from the field, according to the report.

Nice shooting. Kudos, give that man another stripe.

[rageaholic]

"It was difficult to return fire because a school in the area had just been let out and the area was swarming with children," said the report.

Time and again one notes the Arabs' utter disregard for the safety of Women and Children. This is no coincidence, the Arab never had the tradition of Chivalry as we did in the West, and posesses a different mentality.

The PC feel good movement tried to convice us that "all cultures are essentially the same" this is not true. Some are inferior.

[SLB]

Mark eleven up for the good guys.

[mark502inf]

Because of the crowds of schoolchildren, a platoon sniper did much of the shooting, apparently killing seven of the gunmen who fired on the convoy from the field, according to the report.

Saddam was captured based on human intelligence followed up with foot-soldiers walking the ground and finding his hole with their organic optical sensors (sometimes called eyes). And this situation was handled the same way Sergeant York took care of business--a competent marksman with his rifle hitting the target. We spend billions on technology, but winning or losing at the cutting edge is always based on the human factor.

[Jonah Hex]

Bravo zulu to 3/2!

[FreedomPoster]

>>We spend billions on technology, but winning or losing at the cutting edge is always based on the human factor.

And, in this case, the technology (sniper rifle) is one that Napoleon's grognards of the Old Guard would find recognizable, and not technology on the order of laser-designated smart bombs, which to paraphase Arthur Clark, would be indistinguishable from magic to a grognard.

[No Truce With Kings]

The way the headline was written I wondered if there had been a terrorist attack in Washington state, near Ft. Lewis.

[R. Scott]

Nice baptism.

[Paul Ross]

Bang on. The human factor is critical. I wish these soldiers would keep 'worrying the bone' about the shoulder-fired surface to air missiles as well. Chances are excellent that they do exist in the vicinity. Just better concealed.

11 fewer jihadist scum. Thank God! Hope they successfully follow up on the cretin who thought he got away...by ducking into his house.

The use of the school children as cover is truly evil. Hence ABC/CBS and the NYT will never publicize this. Not PC. They just want American bodybags to count.

[SLB]

I hope the posters here remember the mission of the Stryker. It is NOT an urban assault vehicle. It sounds to me like the leadership knows how to employ them and is doing a fine job of it.

[Jonah Hex]

Also, the SBCTs have a large number of snipers organic to the unit. When they couldn't engage due to non-combatants, they used their sniper option.

That's a large part of the SBCT doctrine: When you can't use your big hammer, bring out the tack hammer.

[Poohbah]

And, in this case, the technology (sniper rifle) is one that Napoleon's grognards of the Old Guard would find recognizable, and not technology on the order of laser-designated smart bombs, which to paraphase Arthur Clark, would be indistinguishable from magic to a grognard.

The technology of the sniper rifle, on its surface, would be recognizable. But the "hidden technologies" that are important in bringing it to hand would blow that grognard's mind.

[SLB]

Also, the SBCTs have a large number of snipers organic to the unit. When they couldn't engage due to non-combatants, they used their sniper option.

I was really surprised at the differences between the MTOE of a Stryker Brigade Combat Team (at the battalion level) and that of a regular mech inf. Lots more personal firepower for the Strykers.

[FreedomPoster]

Oh yeah, no doubt about it. Modern precision manufacturing techniques are pretty different from blacksmithery, which is pretty much how the muskets of that day were constructed.

[FreedomPoster]

Is any of that detail available on an open-source web site?