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Plan to Shift Bases Shakes Up Allies
Insight ^ | Dec. 15, 2003 | Jamie Dettmer

Posted on 12/15/2003 7:03:43 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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To: gcruse
Poland doesn't even border Russia anymore, it borders Belarus.
21 posted on 12/15/2003 10:02:37 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: flashbunny
Ever play the game of RISK?

Poland, Bulgaria, Iraq and Afghanistan are very wise placements of forces.

This basically created a line from North to South, right down the middle of some of the most difficult regions in modern history.

Who wants to make the next move?

22 posted on 12/15/2003 10:05:01 PM PST by Hunble
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To: gcruse
cuban missile crisis?

However, Poland did just buy those nifty F-16s. Then again, it is good the be the worlds super power. It is nice when we act like it.
23 posted on 12/15/2003 10:48:22 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: FreedomCalls
"... some of its oldest allies, including Germany"

Germany is not in any way shape or form an "old ally."

yeah, I was a bit surprised to read that myself

24 posted on 12/15/2003 11:02:04 PM PST by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: okie01
Some paint scheme!

paint scheme??
thats not a paint scheme


now THATS a paint scheme!!!

American Volunteer Group (AVG)
AKA: The Flying Tigers

25 posted on 12/15/2003 11:09:39 PM PST by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: TaxPayer2000
great P-40 shot...
26 posted on 12/16/2003 2:40:33 AM PST by VOA
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To: VOA
Howard The Nut Dean needs to read this thread. He still thinks the Soviet Union exists. Notice how he got a free pass from the liberal media on that one.
27 posted on 12/16/2003 3:15:54 AM PST by doosee
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To: doosee
Howard The Nut Dean needs to read this thread. He still thinks the Soviet Union exists.
Notice how he got a free pass from the liberal media on that one.


Oh well, I guess I'll let him slide on that one.
I'm always talking about "The Nation of Texas". LOL!

Only thing is, Texas at this point is a greater nation than the former USSR!
28 posted on 12/16/2003 3:19:40 AM PST by VOA
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To: gcruse

Video of Russian chopper being shot down - Chechnya

This is what happens, in the only constellation of these two factors - US military instructing the army of a country bordering Russia - and hosting terrorists which infiltrate Russia with the latest portable equipment Russian chopper being shot down while patroling the border region with the Pankisi valley, Georgia http://www.maktab-al-jihad.com/videos/videos/helicopter.wmv
29 posted on 12/16/2003 3:28:36 AM PST by Truth666
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To: gcruse
Probably not if they had a history of responding to turmoil in South America.
30 posted on 12/16/2003 4:01:16 AM PST by not-an-ostrich
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To: dfwgator
Poland doesn't even border Russia anymore, it borders Belarus. reeeeaaaallyyy?? hm, I didn't know that...must check the map. rotfl
31 posted on 12/16/2003 4:23:28 AM PST by kaiser80
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To: Hunble
"Who wants to make the next move?" or rather
- Who has to make the next move?
32 posted on 12/16/2003 6:39:32 AM PST by Truth666
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To: Truth666
Go ahead Iran, make our day!!!!!!!!
33 posted on 12/16/2003 6:42:03 AM PST by Hunble
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To: dfwgator; kaiser80
Poland doesn't even border Russia anymore, it borders Belarus.

You haven't heard of Kaliningrad? It's as much a part of Russia as Alaska is a part of the United States.


34 posted on 12/16/2003 2:22:14 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
You haven't heard of Kaliningrad? It's as much a part of Russia as Alaska is a part of the United States. hehe, my post was an irony. I'm a Pole and I assure you that I know that ;)
35 posted on 12/16/2003 2:33:36 PM PST by kaiser80
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To: FreedomCalls
You're right, I guess it's easy sometimes to forget about Kaliningrad.
36 posted on 12/16/2003 2:36:56 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: gcruse
China established bases on both sides of the Panama Canal. Apparently, we're okay with that.

I think Poland is a different case that Hungary or Romania, but I take your points.

Poland wants to see itself less as a Central European ex-Soviet Satellite, and more as a Western European trading partner. Having our bases there would be economically beneficial, and not very different geographically then having them in Germany.

Politically, Germany is no longer allied with the US. We need to leave there soon. Only Italy would make as much sense and be politically paletable. I think there are practical problems with Italy that we wouldn't have with Poland.

I would think that operating out of Poland would be inexpensive compared to any other place in Western Europe.
37 posted on 12/16/2003 2:42:59 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Only those who dare truly live - CGA 88 Class Motto)
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