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Flu shot unable to combat virus strain
Associated Press ^ | Mon, Dec. 15, 2003 | DANIEL Q. HANEY

Posted on 12/15/2003 2:44:36 PM PST by ask

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To: chicagolady
The shots cost $20. I think there were 85 million made. If the mfgs got $10 a dose, and I would be surprised if it's that much, as the middleman gets some and the clinic makes a little. So maybe the drug cos grossed $850 million and I hope they made a nice profit so they can continue to thrive...
81 posted on 12/15/2003 4:04:51 PM PST by tubebender (We've been married 47 years and she still doesn't put the toilet seat up for me...)
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To: tapatio
This one is a whopper

I heard that. Nyquil is my friend...

82 posted on 12/15/2003 4:12:56 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: thatdewd
Nyquil is my friend...Nyquil would not even touch last years flu, I had

Crippling, blinding headache associated with it that was driving me mad after about two days, also excruciating lower back pain. My husband had a bottle of oxycontin in the medicine cabinet left over from his vasectomy. I broke down and took one of those and at least dulled the head pain. It was brutal, I don't want this years if it is worse.

83 posted on 12/15/2003 4:23:46 PM PST by riri
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To: CyberCowboy777
Never have had a flu shot and last year when I was about to donate blood at the local hospital they told me I could not donate if I had the flu shot. Very interesting!!!
84 posted on 12/15/2003 4:23:48 PM PST by OldFriend ( BLESS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: riri
BTW, that probably wasn't a very smart thing to do...
85 posted on 12/15/2003 4:24:37 PM PST by riri
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To: netmilsmom
Well, the flu has always been the biggest killer of kids and the elderly. It's just now they report about it more.

Roughly 30,000 people die of the flu each year in the USA.
86 posted on 12/15/2003 4:44:06 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: chicagolady
The flu vaccine can actually weaken the immune system and make you more predisposed to the illness.

So the flu strikes those who have had flu vaccine more often than those who have not?

My own experience is that after having an especially vicious attack of flu that left me weakened for two months, I began taking flu shots. Over the last ten years, after I began taking the vaccine annually, I have had only one illness with symptoms even remotely resembling the flu.

87 posted on 12/15/2003 4:51:20 PM PST by ngc6656
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To: tapatio
I understand you. I too am sick as a dog. Didn't get the flu shot because I never get the flu.This one is a whopper. I too am going to retire my eyes hurt looking at this.

I just sprayed my computer screen with disinfectant.

88 posted on 12/15/2003 5:30:06 PM PST by Inyo-Mono ("Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready." - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: chicagolady
"People are dying from the flu because they are already sick and have compromised immune systems. The majority of the cause is surely related to eating too much sugar and too many grains, getting inadequate rest."

I eat a lot of sugar, and get by on 5 hours (or less) sleep each night. And I've never had a flu shot, and rarely get sick. I've had the flu maybe 10 years ago. I think my hatred of liberals keeps my immune system strong.

The idea of taking those flu shots scares the crap out of me, because people I know who take them seem to get sick a lot.

89 posted on 12/15/2003 5:30:49 PM PST by roadcat
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To: riri
I broke down and took one of those...

Don't let the Florida DA find out...(I'd have taken it too)

90 posted on 12/15/2003 5:33:00 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: All; TaxRelief
Two N.C. boys dead from flu complications
91 posted on 12/15/2003 5:54:34 PM PST by riri
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To: ngc6656
"So the flu strikes those who have had flu vaccine more often than those who have not?"



NO, Alzheimer's strikes those who have had the flu vaccine more often!
93 posted on 12/15/2003 5:56:34 PM PST by chicagolady (Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night)
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To: roadcat
"I eat a lot of sugar, and get by on 5 hours (or less) sleep each night. And I've never had a flu shot, and rarely get sick."

OK! tell me now you are probably 23 yrs old!! INDESTRUCTABLE!
94 posted on 12/15/2003 5:58:38 PM PST by chicagolady (Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night)
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To: riri
One of the kids who died was vaccinated and it didn't work.
95 posted on 12/15/2003 5:58:39 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: thatdewd
Try the Robitussun Cold, Cough and Flu Liquigels for daytime.

They've got one more ingredient than Dayquil, and really did the trick for me.

This from a Dayquil/Nyquil fiend (I like Jagermeister, as well - maybe that's why).
96 posted on 12/15/2003 6:01:41 PM PST by The Coopster
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To: riri
Beth Rowe-West, head of the immunization branch of the state Division of Public Health, said the Wake County victim's flu appeared to be mild, probably because he had been vaccinated.

This is precisely why children under 9-yrs-old need two shots if they're healthy, 3 shots if they're not.

97 posted on 12/15/2003 6:05:57 PM PST by TaxRelief (Welcome to the only website dedicated to the sustenance of a free republic!)
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To: CyberCowboy777
Boy oh boy!!! I almost spilled my coffee -- I was just kind of browsing the thread, and I suppose my mind is in the gutter tonight because I saw 'prostitutes' ! Man, did my eyes bug out of my head!!!! LOL

Glad it was just a brain fart on my end! LOL

Hope you're better now.
98 posted on 12/15/2003 6:15:17 PM PST by kimmie7 (fa la la la la la la la la fa la la la la la la < breathe!!! > fa la la la la la la la la fa la la!!)
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To: riri
I had a REALLY bad case of the flu when we were living in Saskatchewan 4 years ago.....caught it on the plane.....I had a secret stash of hydrocod.....(I think that was it....codiene based, anyway).....I broke down and took that....I HURT all OVER sooooo bad....so I think for situations like that it is not a bad idea.
99 posted on 12/15/2003 6:32:38 PM PST by goodnesswins (Happy HOLY Days)
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To: CyberCowboy777
I got my first flu shot a week or two ago. And if this new virus is more fatal, I'd say even a 40 percent effectiveness is better than ZERO.

I believe in building natural resistance, but I also believe a LOT MORE in living.

I get the flu(fever, aches, etc) once a year, I've even gotten it in the spring. I tend to suffer for several days, but once it's gone it's over with and I never had to go to the hospital or anything.
100 posted on 12/15/2003 6:33:35 PM PST by Skywalk
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