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Iraq's moment of joy will soon pass (Who is going to try Bremer, Bush, Rumsfeld and Blair?)
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | December 16, 2003 | Sami Ramadani

Posted on 12/15/2003 8:39:19 AM PST by dead

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Who put the bop in the bop-shoo-bop-shoo-bop?
Who put the sham in the sami-rama-dan-i?

1 posted on 12/15/2003 8:39:22 AM PST by dead
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To: dead
My Momma said to say nothing unless you say something nice; uh, let's see, uh, freedom of speech is nice.
2 posted on 12/15/2003 8:42:39 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: dead
It didn't take very long for me to have the same thought. What kind of idiot wrote this stuff?
3 posted on 12/15/2003 8:43:40 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: SF Republican
Freedom of speech does not give one the right to be taken seriously.
4 posted on 12/15/2003 8:48:17 AM PST by uglybiker (Bill Clinton STILL sucks!)
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To: dead
"It has suited the US to blame Saddam for the resistance to the occupation and to use him as a pretext for the continued occupation. But bin Ali is merely confirming what the CIA and US Congress sources have recently confirmed: that there are no fewer than 15 organisations involved in the resistance, which enjoys widespread support. "

So why did we bother to capture Saddam ?
5 posted on 12/15/2003 8:48:22 AM PST by VoodooEconomics
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To: VoodooEconomics
It was a pointless and symbolic excercise in American Imperialism executed solely to improve the election outlook for George Bush, so he continue to make his rich friends richer at the expense of the poor around the world.

(maybe I should stop visiting DU...)

6 posted on 12/15/2003 8:54:29 AM PST by dead (I used to believe in a lot of things. All of it! Now I believe only in dynamite.)
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To: dead
"Who put the sham in the sami-rama-dan-i?" LOL. . .

Sami may think of himself as 'contemporary'; but his thinking is still tribal.

Maybe he should reconsider the 'whole' of Iraq's history and their neighbors as well.

The fact remains that too often, there are only degrees of 'bad' in the choices available. Much of what he cites was the 'best' of the worst'; and from that history and from America now shedding it's 'own blood' to overthrow an evil tyrant; Iraquis are now, finally posed to make a final liberating choice for themselves.

Whose fault will it be if they blow it.

Move on Sami; grow up and be part of the solution; instead of part of the problem.

7 posted on 12/15/2003 9:04:20 AM PST by cricket
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To: dead
"(maybe I should stop visiting DU...)"

reading their posts feels as morbid as watching an accident. . .these peole are truly of a lesser mind.

Pathtic and more than a bit sickening!

8 posted on 12/15/2003 9:07:07 AM PST by cricket
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To: dead
"his delightful moment - enjoyed by all the Iraqis I spoke to as the news of his capture was breaking - was soured by the fact that it was Iraq's newly appointed tyrant, Paul Bremer, doing the boasting: "Ladies and gentlemen ... we got him."

Uhh, you're welcome.
9 posted on 12/15/2003 9:07:33 AM PST by cloud8
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To: SF Republican
An anti-American ethos flows out from this man's words.

I'd like to see verification, for instance, to his claim that it was a US CIA operation that put Baathists into power in Iraq.

10 posted on 12/15/2003 9:08:52 AM PST by thinktwice (America is truly blessed ... with George W. Bush as President..)
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To: dead
" the 1963 CIA-backed coup that brought the Baathists to power...." Even if accurate, recall that in 1963:

The Democrats ran the Senate
The Democrats ran the House
The Democrats controlled the White House
Why, what a rotten schemer that JFK was. I'll bet Teddy is going to have something to say about this!!!

11 posted on 12/15/2003 9:13:49 AM PST by cookcounty (Army vet, Army dad)
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To: cricket
reading their posts feels as morbid as watching an accident. . .these peole are truly of a lesser mind.

The following was my favorite quote over there. If you can ignore the juvenile grammatical style, it’s really very humorous:

Look man. The sheeple, aka the American public, are very short attention spaned. This whole thing was done to boost the sheeple's morale. This thing will be talked into the ground...image after image after image will be shown of this guy. Now, about a month or so down the road, the nukes and other "WMDs" will be found. Cycle repeats...for another month or so. By then, its summer time and the sheeple are outdoors, etc. Another round of tax cuts will by then have been injected into the economy and everything will be hunky dory. Fall 04, getting nearer to elections...OBL will be caught. Repeat until grand climax of presidential election. "Bush lead us to victory." "All his critics were wrong."

So Sadam’s caught, the WMDs are found, Osama’s caught, tax cuts for everybody, a booming economy’s in full swing and the “ignorant sheeple” will be snowed into thinking everything’s hunky dory?!?! I guess we should all be upset by our continuing failure to be loved by the French. He ends it with:

Its actually following some sort of Hollywood script if you really look at it...

Yeah, one with a happy ending, as long as you're not the guy who wrote that.

12 posted on 12/15/2003 9:17:24 AM PST by dead (I used to believe in a lot of things. All of it! Now I believe only in dynamite.)
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To: dead
Heads up Sami, Bush, Rumsfield, and Blair will be tried when you think your big enough to jump up there and get the job done. Iraq is a conquered enemy state, we will leave, if and when we get darn good and ready to, and not a second before, and maybe N E V E R.

You want to know what the average American thinks Sami, we think our government is being much to nice to a nation of backward zealots that need to see the bottoms of our boots more than they need to see an out stretched hand. Keep up your moronic arrogance and we average Americans may convince our government yet that they need to plant a boot firmly in your backsides.

We have decided we like Iraq, it's location is perfect for several US airforce bases and military bases. We think we should keep it, not give it back. We may allow Iraqi's continue to live on our newly conqured territory, but only if they are very, very, nice and pro-American. Here's another thing to stick in your pipe and smoke. Terrorists don't scare us, they have not faired too well against us now have they.

We will kill them and keep killing them until there is no more to kill, how long that takes is of no consequence because we are deadly patient. So in closing Sami, we relate a statement to you that is credited to our President, "Who cares what you think?".
13 posted on 12/15/2003 9:32:41 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: dead
"Its actually following some sort of Hollywood script if you really look at it..." #'Yeah, one with a happy ending, as long as you're not the guy who wrote that'.

Wonder what his favorite movie is?

Truth is, he is probably a real loser and surely does not want others enjoying the 'good' that Life might be able to offer; and for sure not, if he has to earn it. Misery does not just want 'company'; it wants miserable company; and that misery is the MO of most of these anti-people.

DU, by name and content, fits this MO so well. . .and like Saddam in his hole; it is more dark minds/dark souls finding their comfort/refuge where no light can shine.

14 posted on 12/15/2003 9:46:15 AM PST by cricket
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To: dead
"the 1963 CIA-backed coup that brought the Baathists to power"

Hmmm? Now, just who was in charge of the government at that time? Could it be, uh,.....DEMOCRATS?!!! Democrats in the White house and Democrats in the house. So, DEMOCRATS put the Baathists into power, and now they hate it that the Baathists are now out of power! Just burns their butts. They are all in mourning, like KKKatie Couric. They are in black today!

15 posted on 12/15/2003 9:46:16 AM PST by tuckrdout (grant Terri Schindler Schiavo's wish: DIVORCE from Michael!)
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To: dead
Sami Ramadani was a political refugee

Yes, evidently a Communist of some sort. The Baathist party killed his friends, he says, yet he still can't see any difference between Saddam and the "tyrant, Paul Bremer."

Regretably Britain has a long history of giving political shelter to Communists, anarchists, bomb-throwers, and Islamists. They provided shelter for Marx and Engels and many another responsible for mass murder in the twentieth century. I'm not sure how much of it is naivete and how much of it is simply evil. Most other western countries seem eager to do the same.

16 posted on 12/15/2003 9:51:05 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cricket; dead
The most notable thing about those who call themselves Democrats that I have noticed is a certain lack of maturity.

I believe that Maturity is defined by certain actions.

(1)Respect

(2)Morality

(3)Open-mindedness

.(4)Ability to admit mistakes

(5)Accepting Responsibility for one's own life.

It seems the common pattern is that the Democratic Party leaders attempt to pander to the vote of the immature. Those voters that want a government that (1)Tells them what to think, (2)Takes care of them ,(3)Gives them a strawdog to blame everything they don't like about their life, on.

Those people have been given George Bush to HATE, to BLAME, and they know as sure as the world turns, that if they just could get George Bush out of office, all their problems would be solved.

They don't seem able to step past that "Warm-fuzzy / We have nothing to worry about" state promised by their party leaders to see that their problems will still be there, and the only reason their leaders give them BUSH to blame, is so they can get elected and get that "warm-fuzzy" that comes from being IN CONTROL, IN POWER, I AM THE LEADER, ALL HAIL THE LEADER that immature people crave.

If they only understood that their leaders consider the democratic voting public as nothing more than a bunch of morons that they only have to pander to during election time, and after that, the hell with them, TIME TO PARTY!

If those who vote democratic only realized.......

17 posted on 12/15/2003 10:20:25 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ("Duty is ours, Results are God's" --John Quincy Adams)
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To: dead; sultan88
I have seen more and more of this rythmn from the liberal drum beaters. They have taken impact after impact from Bush's successes and now are looking at "what else can go wrong?". Maybe the DOW will top 10,000 or the catch Saddam, etc.
They have turned now to take their worse case senarios and show them as preplanned political schedules. On C-Span last week they had predections for 2004 and one of the leftist experts insinuated Bush already knew Saddam and Ben Laden's whereabouts but were managing their capture for political puposes. I think this will be the coming spin from the left.
18 posted on 12/15/2003 10:49:41 AM PST by flicker
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To: dead
these peole are truly of a lesser mind.

I think it went on to say: "Just wait what and see how happy the stoopid sheeple are when Bush cures cancer... those stoopid sheeple."

LOL

19 posted on 12/15/2003 10:53:07 AM PST by Naspino (Where did I put that sarcasm tag?)
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To: uglybiker
Likewise, freedom of speech refers to the right of a US citizen to have political discourse without interference from the government. Nothing is said about public pressure or humiliation!!
20 posted on 12/15/2003 10:55:21 AM PST by agenda_express
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