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Dutch Protestant Churches Agree to Merge "will permit gay marriages and women pastors"
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| Fri Dec 12, 1:42 PM ET
| TOBY STERLING
Posted on 12/13/2003 11:02:49 AM PST by Destro
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I don't know what is worse abomination-that this new Dutch Protestant Church "will permit gay marriages and women pastors" or that they were allowed to meet at a Roman Catholic church - "neutral territory" indeed.
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:02:50 AM PST
by
Destro
To: MarMema; The_Reader_David; FormerLib
bump
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:03:27 AM PST
by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: Destro
Why bother to have a church like this at all? There is no moral imperative. Just open a spa and preach from there!
To: Destro
The beginning of the New Age Church of the Dutch.
So much for the Word of God being upheld!
Ops4 God BLess America!
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:08:29 AM PST
by
OPS4
To: Destro; knighthawk
Het spijt mij SCHRIKKELIJK!! That's too bad!
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:12:45 AM PST
by
Map Kernow
(In terra pax in hominibus bonae voluntatis)
To: Destro
The Netherlands is recklessly depleting its cultural capital at breackneck speed even as its Muslim population grows ever larger and ever more militant.
The Netherlands will probably edge by France as the first European country to fall under sharia law.
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:14:17 AM PST
by
Loyalist
(Conservative Party of Canada: A truly progressive alliance!)
To: Hermann the Cherusker
This should not be done in a Roman Church.....
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:14:43 AM PST
by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; Antoninus; apologia_pro_vita_sua; Askel5; ...
PING
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:15:52 AM PST
by
Loyalist
(Conservative Party of Canada: A truly progressive alliance!)
To: Loyalist
Now that the Dutch dyke (pun intended-he was Gay) against the rising tide of Islam was assasinated...
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:15:58 AM PST
by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: Destro
I used to live in an area of large dairy farms and many of our neighbors went to the local Dutch Reform Church. I don't see them looking favorably upon this move.
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:17:39 AM PST
by
Mike Darancette
(Proud member - Neoconservative Power Vortex)
To: Destro
Although religious debate has played an important role in Dutch history, many people
abandoned their churches in the last half century, and now nearly 40 percent of the
country identifies itself as agnostic or atheist.
Big shocker. Who wants to be part of a church that isn't "salt and light" to the world.
You'd have more meaningful experiences hanging out at a "Cheers" bar or at
a golf course/country-club.
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:18:51 AM PST
by
VOA
To: VOA
These Dutch clergy do sound a lot like Cheers' Cliff..
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:20:24 AM PST
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Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: Destro
This should not be done in a Roman Church..... Concur. If they commit a Sodomite Ceremony there, I'd be all in favour of demolishing the Church. The Bishop permitting this is extremely irresponsible.
To: Destro
Cardinal Adrianus Simonis
Who is this?
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:25:08 AM PST
by
polemikos
(Pray without ceasing)
To: Jean Chauvin; xzins; Revelation 911; drstevej
Hey Jean, These are your guys. :-) They subscribe to the Tulip. They meet all the requisite criteria for inclusion into the GRPL.
Neener Neener Neener
{!}
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:27:57 AM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(Official Arminian Ambassador to the Calvinist Heretics and Ambassador at Large.)
To: Destro
This ought to increase their numbers.
To: P-Marlowe; Jean Chauvin; drstevej; xzins; Revelation 911; George W. Bush
Hey Jean, These are your guys. :-) They subscribe to the Tulip. They meet all the requisite criteria for inclusion into the GRPL. Neener Neener Neener {!}Neener all you want... but I don't think that even Jean Chauvin (who is of the general Dutch Reformed tradition in America) would deny that Protestantism in the Netherlands has been headed downhill ever since The Dutch Arminian Church of the Remonstrants against Calvinism became the first church in Europe to bless homosexual unions almost twenty years ago.
The recognition of gay and lesbian relationships in the Remonstrant Church and in Dutch society
http://wht.nederland.org/lezingwburg.htm
Dr. Wibren van der BurgI feel very happy, honoured and proud to be at this conference. It is a great pleasure for me as a gay man to speak to such a large audience of gays and lesbians. I am honoured as a representative of the Remonstrants to be invited to talk about our experiences with blessing ceremonies for gay and lesbian couples. And I am also proud that our small church made a contribution to the struggle for equal rights for gays and lesbians, as we were in 1986 the first church in Europe to officially recognize such ceremonies.
Yet again, we see the Arminians introducing novel and fascinating new ideas into the pure Reformed stream of Protestantism, just as they have been doing for 400 years. So, Thanks again, Arminians! We can always depend on you!!
Though from those things of which we can always depend on Arminians to bring in their wake, may God save us.
To: Destro
So what is the point of a having a religion if the denominations abandon all of the moral teachings behind it to begin with? Oh well, if the birth rate continues to decline in Europe they'll learn their lessons soon enough ...
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
OUCH!
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posted on
12/13/2003 11:53:36 AM PST
by
drstevej
(Exurge, Calvinisti, et judica causam tuam...)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; xzins; Jean Chauvin; drstevej; Catholicguy
Thanks again, Arminians! We can always depend on you!! Ah, personal responsibility has never been a srong Calvinistic trait has it? Its the Arminians fault. But ultimately it is God's decree that homosexuals have taken over our Church. Yeah, that's it. It's God's will. God predestined them to be Calvinist Homos.
You know, OP, you are making a strong argument for the error of the entire Reformation Movement. If both Arminians and Calvinists are in apostacy and God is sovereign and has decreed it from the foundation of the earth, then maybe the RCC does hold the keys to the kingdom after all.
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posted on
12/13/2003 12:31:54 PM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(Official Arminian Ambassador to the Calvinist Heretics and Ambassador at Large.)
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