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Hundreds of Hispanics Protest in California
Associated Press ^ | ROBERT JABLON

Posted on 12/12/2003 5:00:51 PM PST by stevie_d_64

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To: stevie_d_64
Hey illegals:
21 posted on 12/12/2003 5:24:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Akira; Happy2BMe; gubamyster; MeeknMing; *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; ..
"Well, today the administration backed Ridge's idea of amnesty, so watch them start really pouring across the border now."

Duh!

Q: Why does the United States Government permit wholesale illegal Mexican immigration?

A: For the workers.

Q: Why does the United States Government need foreign workers (not just Mexicans)?

A: It does not have enough labor force to meet the service sector and other blue collar work sector demands and growth within it's economy.

Q: Why does the United States Government not have enough workers to meet economic demand?

A: Over TWENTY MILLION AMERICAN WORKERS HAVE BEEN ABORTED OVER THE PAST TWENTY YEARS.

Q: If over twenty million American workers have been aborted over the past twenty years, who is going to pay for (read: generate taxes) the Social Security of the baby-boomer generation (now reaching critical mass)?

A: Mexican workers.

Any questions?

22 posted on 12/12/2003 5:26:20 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: stevie_d_64; jmstein7
Good point..
Tell them they actually have to become citizens to get the same rights as other Americans!

Oh, and Castenada's comment about the horrors of deporting all of the legal immigrants:
First of all, why is that bad? I never thought that it was okay to break the law...remember the law?
Second: Is their threat to leave this country really a threat or a promise? ;)
23 posted on 12/12/2003 5:27:47 PM PST by Mich0127
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To: VU4G10
How the hell is that poll almost 50/50? Why even have laws anymore?
24 posted on 12/12/2003 5:28:32 PM PST by Akira (Blessed are the cheesemakers.)
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To: stevie_d_64
I wonder how many liberals support this invasion..Probably 1000% of them, yet sending troops into Iraq to knock a hole in terrorism and rid the world of a modern day Hitler is "Imperialism" and "Blood for oil".
25 posted on 12/12/2003 5:30:23 PM PST by metalboy (I`m still waiting for the mass protests against Al Qaida and Saddam)
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To: humblegunner; Eaker; Flyer; dix; Xenalyte; Allegra; bobbyd; PetroniDE
my first ping...PING!
26 posted on 12/12/2003 5:36:34 PM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: Dog Gone
Honestly, I was shocked it was so few.

Between the communists and the teachers, I was sure they'd get a better turnout. From what one high school kid in LA told me, most of those who did boycott her school were American citizens either looking for power as activists or just taking a day off.
27 posted on 12/12/2003 5:37:15 PM PST by Carry_Okie (California: Where government is pornography every day!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Fed says immigrant wave may slow productivity

CHATHAM, Mass. (Reuters) - A new wave of U.S. immigrants over the next century will enlarge the labor pool at a time when a growing proportion of the nation will be retiring, but their arrival may slow growth in U.S. productivity, a Federal Reserve report said on Tuesday.

The U.S. Census Bureau projects that the U.S. population will grow more slowly over the next century than ever before and age rapidly, with the proportion of those over 65 years hitting record highs.

This will mean the U.S. will once again become a nation of immigrants, a report by the Boston Federal Reserve Bank said, noting immigration in the past decade had already neared proportions last seen in the early 1900s as Europeans flocked to U.S. shores. The Boston Fed is opening a conference Tuesday morning in Chatham on the economic impact of demographic change. The report is due to be presented at the conference.

The new wave of immigrants, mainly from Latin America and Asia, and their children, will account for more than half of the increase in the U.S. population over the next century, the report said.

``These demographic shifts are likely to trigger some major adjustments within the U.S economy -- many of which will play out in U.S. labor markets,'' said Jane Little and Robert Triest, Boston Fed economists and authors of the report.

From an economic standpoint, the key question is whether the new wave of immigrants, many of whom have relatively lower levels of schooling compared with U.S. natives, will be able to achieve the higher productivity -- output per worker -- needed to meet the living standards expected by the aging population.

Although economic analysis suggests productivity growth is fastest when population growth is slow, the report said this fails to take into account the past trend of increasing educational attainment.

``While immigration is projected to make a huge contribution to the growth in the U.S. working age population, this gain comes at a price, since the gap between the average educational attainment of the foreign- and native-born populations is large,'' the report said.

EDUCATION, EDUCATION, EDUCATION

For policymakers, this means that addressing the educational needs of immigrants, particularly those from Latin America, should be paramount in coming years, Little and Triest argued. ``Given the importance of productivity gains to maintaining or increasing our standard of living as the population ages and the relative size of the work force shrinks, raising U.S. educational attainment heads the set of policy implications.''

The U.S. Census Bureau expects the share of the U.S. population over 65 to almost double from 13 percent now to 23 percent by the end of the century. The dependency ratio is likely to double from its level now of 0.2 dependents to each worker to just under 0.4 at the end of this century.

Immigrants will account for three quarters of the expected growth in the working population over the century and this may help mitigate the dependency ratio's rise, the report said.

But the key problem remains.

``To many economists and policymakers, a high dependency ratio raises concerns about how a small work force will provide for a relatively large number of dependents without a decline in the U.S. standard of living,'' it said.

If the projections for the dependency ratio proved correct, the report says, they would imply a need for a 40 percent gain in labor productivity by mid-2030 just to maintain current living standards.

``As productivity more than doubled between 1960 and 2000, such a gain should be well within reach if current trends continue,'' it said. ``But, if productivity growth were to revert to a much slower pace, workers' real incomes would stagnate.''

One way out would be if workers retired later. But, the report notes, even this would be unlikely to match changes in labor participation seen in the 1960s, particularly the surge in women entering the labor force.

28 posted on 12/12/2003 5:37:49 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: Happy2BMe
I was pretty much with you until that last one. My question is...what are you smoking? We'll be as successful at collecting taxes from them after amnesty as we have at curbing bilingual education for illegals, reduced tuition for illegals, free healthcare for illegals, a license to vote in our elections for illegals, etc. Step right up and get your entitlement!
29 posted on 12/12/2003 5:41:51 PM PST by Akira (Blessed are the cheesemakers.)
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To: stevie_d_64
Did anyone else notice how nice it was shopping today?
30 posted on 12/12/2003 5:44:05 PM PST by TightyRighty
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To: stevie_d_64
About 400 people marched into East Los Angeles, waving signs that read, in Spanish, "Yes, we can" and "We want licenses now."

Plenty of licencias available on the other side of the border, ese..
I almost wish I lived in California so I could support the repealment
of this idiocy. Reconquista be damned.

32 posted on 12/12/2003 5:48:14 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: ladyinred
They obviously have no fear of the INS! Wonder why that is? Hmmm.

Our laws are only designed for legal citizens. Criminal illegal aliens have no fear of our laws. They know as well as we do they get the pass.

Just keep paying those taxes.....

Go Bush!

33 posted on 12/12/2003 5:49:39 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: sarcasm
"``To many economists and policymakers, a high dependency ratio raises concerns about how a small work force will provide for a relatively large number of dependents without a decline in the U.S. standard of living,'' it said."

Answer: Import more Mexican workers, LOTS and LOTS of them.

35 posted on 12/12/2003 6:08:09 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: Baynative
"I was given a tour of emerging housing tract neighborhoods in the southern California desert last year."

Which desert, low or high?

36 posted on 12/12/2003 6:11:25 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Quite obvious that you didn't read the entire article. Social Security won't be "saved" by importing hordes of immigrants who have low levels of education. The average Mexican immigrant has less than seven years of schooling - hardly what this society needs.
37 posted on 12/12/2003 6:13:03 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
"The average Mexican immigrant has less than seven years of schooling - hardly what this society needs."

I read the whole read.

Why do you think states such as California and Florida are doing everything they can to get free college (13th and 14th years) for illegal Mexicans?

It fits for me.

38 posted on 12/12/2003 6:18:53 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: Carry_Okie
Exactly my immediate reaction. Hundreds? What's the population of California? And why is this even a story?
39 posted on 12/12/2003 6:20:04 PM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: Happy2BMe
Glad that you want your pocket picked to provide a college education for illegal aliens. You're free to contribute what you wish but don't try to pick mine to pay for their education.
40 posted on 12/12/2003 6:22:59 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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