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This isn't 'the Holiday' -- it's Christmas!
Iowa State Daily (Iowa State U.) ^
| 12/11/03
| Jeff Morrison
Posted on 12/12/2003 9:34:23 AM PST by NorCoGOP
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To: Kenton
...Christianity, alone among the major religions, has been singled out for this disrespectful treatment.Yes, but in a way this is almost comforting. It proves Christianity is the truth, and that's why Satan attacks it and it alone.
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:28:03 AM PST
by
Nea Wood
To: RightWhale
Last day of class yesterday. The prof wished everyone a great semester break. I wished everybody a Merry Christmas! It was great, the looks on people's faces. I do the same thing. I make a point of wishing people a Merry Christmas. It wasn't too long ago that the phrase was the norm this time of year and I refuse to let PC bully me into using "ACLU-Approved" greetings.
I'm a Christian; I celebrate Christmas. If some liberal doesn't like it, they can go cry and sing "Kumbaya" for all I care.
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:29:54 AM PST
by
Allegra
To: Hollywoodghost
Is anyone really happy at Christmas? I believe that the majority of those of us who recognize the real reason for celebrating Christmas are happy at this time of year.
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:32:47 AM PST
by
Allegra
To: NorCoGOP
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:36:57 AM PST
by
upchuck
(Yes! I am weird. But in a dreadful, eerie, creepy, odd, horrific, warm, gentle, friendly kinda way)
To: NorCoGOP
I agree that all christians should celebrate Christmas, and all jewish people should celebrate Hanukkah. The problem arises when business are trying to reach customers who are not christian. People who celebrate Hanukkah don't buy Christmas gifts, they buy Hanukkah gifts. So why not advertise HOLIDAY gifts and wish customers a HAPPY HOLIDAY and kill two birds with one stone? Makes sense to me, as much as I am bothered by the consumerism this time of year. Let's put it in perspective for schools, too. I am tired of all of the folks upset about schools no longer having Christmas programs and parties. If you want to have a Christmas program, have a Haunuka program, too. Open schools to all religions or none at all.
To: NorCoGOP
If you want to p!ss off the postal clerks, ask for
Mary and Jesus stamps (I was informed they were
Madonna and child stamps).
I've started calling our office "holiday party" a Christmas party (my cube happens to be organizing it this year) and no one has questioned it - in fact, the term has caught on. We have a Christmas Tree, people will bring presents, and we're getting a big ham (so it can't be Islam). I have yet to see some Jewish cuisine at any of these parties (and a good blintz would certainly be welcome). We got too many white folk for Kwanza. So unless someone can explain what Holiday (with an H) we are celebrating, we are going to celebrate Christmas.
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:41:56 AM PST
by
meowmeow
To: NorCoGOP
Simple solution is to say Merry Christmas to anyone who wishes you a "happy holiday" or some such silly generic greeting. I've said this to a couple of people and told them I don't believe in generic holiday greetings.
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:43:54 AM PST
by
rllngrk33
(Liberals are guilty of everything they accuse Conservatives of.)
To: RaceBannon; StarFan; stanz; Dutchy; firebrand; evilC; Cacique; Clemenza
Merry Christmas ping! :-)
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:47:24 AM PST
by
nutmeg
(Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
To: NorCoGOP
Actually, to be a bit of an historical curmudgeon, the December 25 date has more to do with Mithras (
natalis soli invicti) than Yeshua ben Yosef, the son of Miryam and Yosef of Natzaret. He was much more likely to have been born during one of the pilgrim feasts prescibed by the Torah.
The Roman Catholic Church appropriated the date for a variety of reasons around 350 AD. The Eastern bishops never did completely buy into the date. For a source, see the Catholic Encyclopedia .
To: NorCoGOP
At the rate things are going, we'll be lucky if the worst editing done to "A Charlie Brown Christmas" is the current hack job ABC does by putting commercials where they were never meant to be. If the animators wanted to begin creating that show now, and have Linus tell us what Christmas is all about, would the project ever get off the ground, or would we have to endure "A Charlie Brown Holiday"? I'm actually amazed - and pleased - that "A Charlie Brown Christmas" runs every year as it is with no PC changes to its 30-year-old (?) script.
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:52:40 AM PST
by
nutmeg
(Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
To: immykidsmom
"So why not advertise HOLIDAY gifts and wish customers a HAPPY HOLIDAY and kill two birds with one stone? Makes sense to me, as much as I am bothered by the consumerism this time of year"
Good point. My list for cards includes christians, atheist, jews, and a couple of buddhist. Me...I'm an atheist. So I send out Holiday greetings. Everyone can choose their holiday for themselves, and I want them all to enjoy the season.
Same for my web business. I have customers of many faiths. Should I put up a Christmas message or a Happy Holidays message? I've got a snowman on my site. Generic.
I hope everyone has a happy holiday season, whatever holiday they celebrate.
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:54:26 AM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: meowmeow
If you want to p!ss off the postal clerks, ask for Mary and Jesus stamps (I was informed they were Madonna and child stamps).LOVE IT!
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:56:11 AM PST
by
ladyjane
To: meowmeow
"If you want to p!ss off the postal clerks, ask for Mary and Jesus stamps (I was informed they were Madonna and child stamps)."
Haven't seen anything like that at my post office. I have to stand in lines there most days of the week to ship orders to my customers. I hear lots of folks asking for Christmas stamps. The clerks each have a page showing all the different stamps available. I've heard several ask for the Mary and Jesus stamps. The clerks just sell those to them.
Don't generalize from one incident, please.
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:56:22 AM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: rllngrk33
"Simple solution is to say Merry Christmas to anyone who wishes you a "happy holiday" or some such silly generic greeting"
Sounds like a good plan to me. Others might say Happy Hannukah, or Kwaanza, or whatever other holiday they celebrate at this time of year. I generally say, Happy New Year!
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:58:17 AM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: immykidsmom
I agree that all christians should celebrate ChristmasI don't. Many christians don't celebrate Christmas and some who do don't celebrate it as the birth of Christ.
Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
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posted on
12/12/2003 11:02:20 AM PST
by
asformeandformyhouse
(If it's not a baby, then you're not pregnant.)
To: rllngrk33
Simple solution is to say Merry Christmas to anyone who wishes you a "happy holiday" or some such silly generic greetingI usually wish them a "Happy Christmas and a Merry New Year". The turn of the phrase makes them think about it.
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posted on
12/12/2003 11:05:34 AM PST
by
asformeandformyhouse
(If it's not a baby, then you're not pregnant.)
To: asformeandformyhouse
"I don't. Many christians don't celebrate Christmas and some who do don't celebrate it as the birth of Christ. "
Indeed, you are correct. In the first place, it's extremely unlikely that Jesus was born at this time of year. We don't know, actually, what time of year he was born.
Christmas was placed at this time of year to substitute for various pagan celebrations which occurred around the time of the Winter solstice.
Lots of folks celebrate non-Christian holidays during December. Happy Holidays pretty much covers it, no matter who you say it to. Even atheists celebrate the beginning of the New Year, so it applies to the non-religious as well.
As for yourself, well, you're more than welcome to wish me joy for whatever holiday you celebrate. I'll thank you for your wishes.
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posted on
12/12/2003 11:06:24 AM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: NorCoGOP
I'm in really good Christmas spirits so is my wife, myself especially since after today I'm off till Jan 2. I'll be doing my Freeping from home and not my cubie.
MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR FREEPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
12/12/2003 11:12:53 AM PST
by
BiteMedems
(Proud Voter of GWB)
To: kittymyrib
I really like you're idea! I have a feeling that if there were even a slight rumble to this, we'd have all those commercial entities screaming CHRISTMAS from the rooftops!
This has real possibilities... Boycott The Holidays... Christmas, we'll celebrate, but NO HOLIDAY SHOPPING!
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posted on
12/12/2003 11:20:58 AM PST
by
myrabach
To: NorCoGOP; All
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posted on
12/12/2003 11:41:06 AM PST
by
EdReform
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