Group files suit against Barnetts; Claims impersonation of a federal agent

Sierra Vista Herald ^ | Dec. 11, 2003 | Bill Hess

[AZHSer]

Another take on tha Barnett story. Could someone ping the immigration list?

[gubamyster]

ping

[jordan8]

When will we be able to sue the INS for impersonating federal agents?

[AZHSer]

Thanks!

[joesnuffy]

Ya gotta understand that Homeland Security is like Campaign Finance Reform
neither one is about what they say they are....each title masks an entirely different agenda
sheep arent sposed to look up...the one's that do get the hammer right between the lookers...first...
Capeesh?....

[Spiff]

As part of the church's humanitarian mission, those who cross the border seeking jobs are not turned in to the federal government, Mackenzie said. If the people were drug smugglers, officials would be called. Water jugs are placed at the well on the church property so the migrants can quench their thirst and refill their water bottles.

MacKenzie just admitted to aiding and abetting illegals by allowing them to cross his property and by giving them supplies (water). He should be charged with this crime.

[Bikers4Bush]

Agreed.

[tahiti]

"About 1 p.m. that day, Mackenzie said he came across a group of about 30 illegal immigrants at a well on the church's property and saw they were frightened.

As part of the church's humanitarian mission, those who cross the border seeking jobs are not turned in to the federal government, Mackenzie said. If the people were drug smugglers, officials would be called.

Water jugs are placed at the well on the church property so the migrants (above they were called illigal immigrants) can quench their thirst and refill their water bottles.

The Vietnam War veteran, who has lived in Cochise County seven years, said he is part of the lawsuit as an individual and the church is not a party to the suit.

What is wrong with this picture?

What U.S. citizen is breaking the law in this story? Not Mr. Barnett, but Mr. McKenzie who is aiding and abetting foreigners breaking U.S. immigration laws.

And Mr. McKenzie is a Vietnam War veteran. Did not fight in that war to protect U.S. sovereignity from the expansive communist? Now he will not help protect U.S. sovereignity from an influx of illegal immigrants?

[AZHSer]

I wish! We have a family down the street that is doing this same sort of thing. It is one of the reasons we have so much traffic in our area. The breadwinners of the families (at least 2 families in the house) have green cards but are not citizens. We have a pretty good idea about the status of the others. They are either part of a smuggling ring or are at least aiding and abetting but unless the are caught in the act, BP can do nothing and they consider what we witness hearsay.

[First_Salute]

Bump.

[DLfromthedesert]

Or Tom Ridge for impersonating a Homeland Security Director?

[Tactical]

A person who is apprehended is usually charged with a misdemeanor. She said that does not give the Barnetts any right to stop and detain them and turn them over to the U.S Border Patrol.

As a matter of fact, citizen's do have the ability to enforce the laws of their state and the U.S. Law Enforcement is just the paid spinoff of the old nightwatch system that was in use that we (USA) adopted from England.

Some people didn't want to patrol when it came time for them to work the nightwatch, so they hired others to work for them. These later became paid law enforcement.

Anyone 18 or over can make a citizen's arrest and turn the culprit over to the appropriate law enforcement agency. At most, the worst case Barnett could face is a trespassing charge. And if the land isn't appropriately posted against trespassers, then there's no case against him.

I wish the court system on the local levels was handled as strictly as Federal courtrooms are. This lawsuit wouldn't get out of the judges chambers in federal court.

[sasafras]

HOW DO WE HELP THESE GUYS? IS THERE A SITE WHERE WE CAN DONATE TO THEIR LEGAL FUND? THANKS.

[AZHSer]

Have no idea. I don't know if they would be open to such help. They can probably be contacted through Barnetts propane in Sierra Vista, AZ. There are several Sierra Vista FReepers that know them personally and would know more about this possiblity than I do. I just buy my propane from them:-)

[Oatka]

If you do a search on Jennifer Allen and the Border Action Network, you will find they are a front organization for the open borders crowd as well as being bed partners with the local ACLU.

It sounds like another tactic to drain the resources of anti-illegal people by harrassing them with these kinds of lawsuits.

Mackenzie contends that when he came upon the detained illegal immigrants and the Barnetts on Oct. 11, what they were doing was against the law . . .

And aiding and abetting illegals is WITHIN the law? Another example of selective outrage.

Roger Barnett had begun tracking the migrants on his property and continued on to the church's land where he was trespassing, Mackenzie said.

So, this whole lawsuit is based on what this bozo said he saw? Got pictures? If not, let's hope the Arizona attorney's "appropriate action" means the circular file.

[HiJinx]

So, this whole lawsuit is based on what this bozo said he saw? Got pictures? If not, let's hope the Arizona attorney's "appropriate action" means the circular file.

Since Jennifer Allan is on record as saying she planned to go after the Barnetts specifically, and since the BAN and Mackenzie's so-called church are leftist (read: wacko) organizations, your wish is probably going to be fulfilled. It always has been in the past, even when the FBI investigated Roger.

[HiJinx]

I just buy my propane from them:-)

Yeah, me too! I doubt that they're going to need financial help. Someone who owns 7,000 acres of ranchland and a successful business, and is a former deputy sheriff probably knows and can afford a good attorney.

However, if he needs help, we'll let y'all know!

[HiJinx]

She added that actions taken by people such as the Barnetts are harming those who are crossing the border and who are not committing any felonies.

Poor deluded Jennifer....since when do you have to commit a felony before John Law comes to make life difficult for you?

[AZHSer]

What I want to know is how "people such as the Barnetts" are harming these folks. Especially during the summer months. The guys my hubby rounded up last week looked significantly dehydrated and they sure sucked down a lot of water while waiting for BP. If anything, we are saving a lot of these folks from a painful death.

[AZHSer]

I am also concerned with the comments by the sheriff's spokesperson that anyone turning illegals over to the BP is supposed to be investigated even if there is no complaints of harassment. On the first thread, I posted what my hubby had been up to last week. I guess we are going to be investigated. God forbid that the average citizen makes someone in the County Attorney's office mad. They could use such an investigation to harass them. They should be going after the illegals and folks like Mackenzie instead of law abiding citizens protecting their neighborhood.