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Japanese Join American Nay-Sayers in Protesting Enola Gay Exhibit
CNSNews.com ^ | Dec 11, 2003 | Susan Jones

Posted on 12/11/2003 6:51:57 AM PST by microgood

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To: pabianice
The Japanese government underwrites the cost of American bases.
21 posted on 12/11/2003 7:22:47 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: microgood
Nanking, Pearl Harbor, Bataan Death March, Manila, Unit 751, how many atrocities have I missed? The Japs were murderous barbarians, with a racist (in the real meaning of the word) ethos that the Nazis never matched. Simply stated, if you were not Japanese, you were not entirely human... I am sure this has changed, but I don't think they should be allowed to forget their misdeeds.

The Japanese deserved everything they suffered in WWII. I am proud of the submariners that mercilessly destroyed their shipping, the pilots that drove them from the air and laid waste their cities, the sailors that shattered their fleets, and soldiers that outfought them in the most hostile environments on Earth, from equatorial jungles to arctic tundra.

I wish I would could be in DC for this. It would be fun to burn a Rising Sun (Imperial Japanese) flag at a counter-protest.
22 posted on 12/11/2003 7:28:20 AM PST by Little Ray (When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!)
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To: Little Ray
I am proud of the submariners that mercilessly destroyed their shipping, the pilots that drove them from the air and laid waste their cities, the sailors that shattered their fleets, and soldiers that outfought them in the most hostile environments on Earth, from equatorial jungles to arctic tundra.

I am proud as well. One of the biggest examples of good versus evil that ever happened. Thank God the good guys won.
23 posted on 12/11/2003 7:32:45 AM PST by microgood (They will all die......most of them.)
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To: camle
japanese ought to thank the Enola Gay AND BOcks Car for helping their leadership capitulate - an island invasion would have destroyed far more of their culture than they lost. There wouldn't have been much left of Japan had we been forced to invade - they ought to be grateful.

BUMP!

24 posted on 12/11/2003 7:46:00 AM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Little Ray
Nanking, Pearl Harbor, Bataan Death March, Manila, Unit 751, how many atrocities have I missed? The Japs were murderous barbarians...

I rather judge nations and be judged by CURRENT actions. We have a few skeletons in our closet as well. Japan is reasonably free and honorable as a nation now. That is all the current Japanese can be held accountable for.

As for this group of Japanese protesters...leftists are leftists! We have our share as well. I wouldn't want America to be judged as if we were ALL Baldwins...

25 posted on 12/11/2003 8:20:17 AM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: microgood
I respect both sides in this debate. It is very probable that my siblings and I owe our existence and the life of our father to the quick end of the conflict with Japan. While the opposite is true for those in Japan, I don't feel guilt. The proper response to this reality is a real commitment to first manage and maybe eliminate the threat from WMD. George Bush and Tony Blair are the only world leaders that have the credentials for this job.
26 posted on 12/11/2003 8:31:43 AM PST by reed_inthe_wind
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To: microgood
Great. I'm going to have a boatload of 'pacifist' anti-nuke-kook pukes in my "back yard". I can't wait ...

Bastards better stay peaceful.

27 posted on 12/11/2003 8:33:39 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: reed_inthe_wind
We lived in Japan in the 1950s...
Our maid, Masako, told us when she was a child, she was forced to work in a munitions factory that had a large red cross painted on its roof. When the factory was hit by bombs in '45, some of the machinery was moved into caves where production resumed. She said the militarists had no plans to surrender, even after the second atomic bomb.
28 posted on 12/11/2003 8:39:00 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: microgood
I think this pretty much sums it up:


29 posted on 12/11/2003 8:54:48 AM PST by Prime Choice (Leftist opinions may be free, but I still feel like I'm getting ripped off every time I receive one.)
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To: microgood
Hiroshima Prefecture is a thriving metropolis with a current population exceeding 2.8 million people.
Nagasaki Prefecture, at 1.5 million population, is only slightly smaller.

Neither is the uninhabitable, radioactive moonscape that anti-nuke activists want the world to believe.

30 posted on 12/11/2003 8:58:22 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Every city in Japan would have been totally destroyed if the Japanese had not surrendered in August.

Minor correction: Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed in August, but Japan didn't surrender until September 2nd, 1945.

31 posted on 12/11/2003 9:00:06 AM PST by Prime Choice (Leftist opinions may be free, but I still feel like I'm getting ripped off every time I receive one.)
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To: Prime Choice
You are correct, sir.
32 posted on 12/11/2003 9:01:23 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: microgood
How 'bout, just for the sake of balance, the set up a display on Nanking right next to Enola Gay?
33 posted on 12/11/2003 9:37:59 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
If you don't mind my asking, how old were you when you lived in Japan in the '50's?
34 posted on 12/11/2003 2:46:03 PM PST by ShadowDancer
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To: microgood
Another group, The Committee for a National Discussion of Nuclear History and Current Policy," headed by an American University professor, said it has collected over 400 signatures, including those of Nobel laureates, urging the Smithsonian to present a "balanced discussion" of the atomic bombings in 1945 and of current U.S. nuclear policy.

Seems reasonable. A fair statement might be:
The decision to use the A-bomb on Japanese cities may have seemed like the right decision to people at the time. But in retrospect we can see that: You had it coming"

35 posted on 12/11/2003 3:30:27 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("Noöne has the right not to be offended" John Cleese)
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To: microgood
I presume they all stopped over in Hawaii to protest the Arizona Memorial as well.
36 posted on 12/11/2003 3:32:21 PM PST by norton
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To: ShadowDancer
I was a little kid in Japan 1951-1961, with three brief return trips back Stateside during that time. Each trip was 14 days via MSTS ship from Yokohama to Seattle or Oakland, with troops on the fantail and bow and us military dependents in five floors of tiny staterooms mid-ship. My sixth crossing was on my 13th birthday.
My dad was an old China hand, had been in Asia with his dad in the 1920s, installing Otis elevators in China's first hotels. My dad learned to fly and was a pilot for China National Airlines Company (owned by American Airlines), then was in the CBI as a civilian C-46 pilot for the Army Aircorps in WW II. He was 42 when I came into the world.
37 posted on 12/11/2003 5:36:21 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The reason I had asked is I just finished reading a MacArthur biography and was wondering if the sentiment of the Japanese people toward MacArthur really matched what the author had stated. However, reading what you wrote was much more interesting. What fantastic lives you and your family have led.
38 posted on 12/12/2003 4:29:59 AM PST by ShadowDancer
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To: ShadowDancer
The Japanese we got to know thought MacArthur was God. You can debate over the general's Hirohito decision but the survivors of the war (civilians still at home and parents of war dead) were glad he got rid of the militarists.
39 posted on 12/12/2003 6:32:14 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: microgood
I dont' disagree with most of you, Japanese GOVERNMENT did terrible things in the past, and the atomic bomb was preferable to having American invade Japan by land, but that doesn't mean there weren't casualties in the bombing of Japan, just like there were German casulaties. it's always good to have respect for human life, it's the imperial Japanese and German nazis and Iraqi baathists LEADERS who force these innocent people to be victims
40 posted on 12/12/2003 9:42:18 PM PST by hasegawasama
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