Enough With The Neocon And Paleocon Carping—I'll Stand With George W. Bush In 2004

Toogood Reports ^ | Thursday, December 11, 2003; 12:01 a.m. EST | Bernard Chapin

[gatorbait]

Not to mention, ask yourself where do the Dems stand on the issues you are criticizing Bush about?

Will you be happier and better off under Dean or Kerry or Hillary, than you are with Bush as President

In answer to this question,yes, for having this would allow the pleasure of unspeakable misery to cause goosebumps for the Principled martyrs .

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Excuse me? CHildish? LOL YOu must be joking. YOU are the one who is childish, going along with anything the Nanny state prez says to do.
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"Actions and votes have consequences. " That's right, and I intend to hold GWB accountable for his actions! That consequence will be the lack of my vote.

Wow...you people have things backwards! It's up to him to uphold the Conservative platform...not up to us to capitulate because he's "cute", Republican, "hunky."

[Consort]

The SPIN stops here: It wasn't 'our votes' that got us 8 painful years of Clinton, it was GHW's failure to uphold Republican values.

Wrong....cop-out... We all know, as you do, that "It's the voters, stupid." And that includes the ones who stayed home.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Excuse me? CHildish? LOL YOu must be joking. YOU are the one who is childish, going along with anything the Nanny state prez says to do.
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"Actions and votes have consequences. " That's right, and I intend to hold GWB accountable for his actions! That consequence will be the lack of my vote.

Wow...you people have things backwards! It's up to him to uphold the Conservative platform...not up to us to capitulate because he's "cute", Republican, "hunky."

[nutmeg]

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[squidly]

It's up to them to EARN our votes

Good to know Dean has earned your's, or at the very least he's earned your help in greasing the skids for him by not voting for Dubya.

[Utah Girl]

Actually, I must give credit to kayak, I 'borrowed' the quote from her. It is quite handy.

I disagree with some of what President Bush has done, no doubt about it. But overall, he has been an excellent President. And in light of the possibility of Al Gore being president, well, the thought is frightening. But some would still give their vote to Perot or Buchanan or Alan Keyes or whoever, and have a Gore, or another clinton, or Dean in the White House.

[FairOpinion]

Why don't you answer a simple question, yes or no.

Do you realize that if Bush loses, that means a Democrat -- one of the nine dwarves of Hillary WINS?

And you can answer the second question:

Do you prefer any of the Dems as President, to Bush?

[Utah Girl]

Wrong....cop-out... We all know, as you do, that "It's the voters, stupid." And that includes the ones who stayed home.

Great comments. And to those who are going to stay home and not vote in 2004 because President Bush didn't meet their vision of a pure conservative, they lose the right to whine if they don't vote. I can remember voting for Bob Dole in 1996 on a gray day in November. I knew he wasn't going to win, but I voted anyway.

[SAJ]

Don't YOU get it -- it's only a question, based upon Mr. Bush's performance to date, of how quickly the Marxist 'Rat crowd ultimately prevails? Mr. Bush is focussed upon his reelection -- fine, no problem.

However, I never confuse ends and means; his means to his end are despicable -- continue and expand the Ponzi schemes of his predecessors, keep loading debt onto generations yet unborn, equate citizenship with simply sneaking over the border... and how many other examples, based in hard fact and not opinion, would you like to have just this minute?

[FairOpinion]

"I disagree with some of what President Bush has done, no doubt about it. "

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As do most of us -- I don't think there is anyone who agrees with everything any president does.

But when one looks at the overall situation, Bush is the best president we could have during these critical times.

Also remember, some of what he does that we may not agree with, is a result of having to make compromises with the Dems, because there are still too many of them in Congress -- so what we should do is send more Republicans, so Bush can have a free hand to advance the conservative agenda.

[nopardons]

There will NEVER be a revolt, no matter how many times someone decides to post such utter foolishness to FR.

There NEVER has been, nor shall there EVER be a president who will satisfy, even 75% of what is claimed to be wanted, by some political naifs here. NOT EVER !

There are two major political parties; just TWO. Fringe parties haven't a snowball's chance in you know where, of ever being anything other than a " spoiler "; if that.

Ergo, you have two choices and only two. You can either vote for a GOP candidate, who may or may not be deemed, by you, to be close to your positions, or you can give aid and comfort to the enemy of EVERY SINGLE POSITION you hold dear. That's it.

When Clinton was president, most of FR was a very cohesive place. Yes, some fingers, even back then, were attempting to shred any and all GOPer, but I digress. We were all miserable, so of course, the UNAPPEASEABLES were happy. Now, all of that has changed.

Conservatives, of every stripe, need to come together, stop thinking in fractured ways, see that we all have the same enemies, and those enemies are not to be aided, even though some here have their noses out of joint due to real and only perceived " wrongs ".

The only " tragic joke ", is that so many posters, who assume that they have even a wee bit of political acumen, have absolutely none whatsoever !

[Fledermaus]

I trust Lieberman on defense. But I'm not going to let others dictate to me what I should worry about.

Are Islamist going to be roaming the streets killing and maiming at will? No. And no President will allow it regardless of who they are. Besides, I can defend myself quite well and live in a remote enough area and have land in even more remote areas.

Maybe I'm a cynic, but why would life be worth living if the national debt skyrockets to unattainable levels and the dollar collapses? (which is why I hedge with gold)

Why is being "free" worth having my political speech curtailed? Or I'm taxed to death to pay for the healthcare of well to do and rich seniors? Or I'm drained of my money that gets thrown down the rathole of bureaucracies that are NEVER held accountable by ANY President or administration like federal education spending?

Then there are all those wonderful regulations that make us all lawbreakers on a daily basis. And the fact they tell me what and how much to eat, how much water can flush down my toilet at one time, what kind of car I can drive with their ridiculous CAFE laws, how long I have to stand in line at the airport because they are too politically correct and won't just watch the young Arabs with no luggage going one-way on a cash purchased ticket?

And on, and on, and on, and on. Exactly what is worth being "safe" when my life is micromanaged by pinheads who think they know better than anyone else? I guess our definition of safety and security and freedom just differ.

Also, in 1991, after living in Arkansas from 1970-1983, I made all of your arguments to anyone that would listen about Clinton over Bush 41. Now, I'm not saying Clinton was a good president (he wasn't) but he didn't "destroy" the economy as I predicted back then. He didn't shove far left wing liberalism down our throats (thanks to Hillarycare and 1994), etc. that I predicted.

He did have sex in the Oval Office. I predicted that! I knew his behaviour and knew there was no way he wasn't going to take advantage of the most powerful office in the land when he relished it as governor of Arkansas.

And just like 1991, everyone on the "right" is saying "Dean can't win". If I had a nickel for everytime I heard "Clinton can't win", I'd be richer than I am. And the only factor Perot brought to the situation was that he was more to right economically than Bush 41 and that shows the weakness of Bush, not Perot.

[Fledermaus]

Heck, you can stay, just for this post alone; not to mention the fact that we're usually friends and I anjoy talking with you. LOL

Oh thank you, thank you! ;-)

[Fledermaus]

They don't understand our point of view, eh buddy?

[MissAmericanPie]

Sorry, can't listen, keep hearing everything in spanish around here.

[Consort]

And to those who are going to stay home and not vote in 2004 because President Bush didn't meet their vision of a pure conservative...

Yes, the Ideologically Correct on the Right might be just as bad as the Politically Correct on the Left.

[Dane]

Thanks for the ping. Unfortunately, the damned UNAPPEASEABLES, will still continue to refuse to see the light

Some of them I believe see the light, they are just working with the other side(demos), to turn it off.

[FairOpinion]

In other words, you'd like to see a Democrat in the White House -- I guess you learned nothing during 8 years of Clinton.

We may never know for sure, but Clinton's inaction allowed Bin Laden to build up a strong, worldwide terrorist organizartion, which led to 9-11.

[Fledermaus]

ONLY 2 dozen? You disappoint me, Batsy (w!).

I'm getting lazy in my old age! lol

Merry Christmas and many wishes for a wonderful 2004 to you and yours my friend.