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Baker Furniture to close Holland plant
The Grand Rapids Press ^ | Wednesday, December 10, 2003 | Rob Kirkbride and John Tunison

Posted on 12/10/2003 8:50:48 AM PST by Willie Green

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1 posted on 12/10/2003 8:50:52 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: billbears; harpseal
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Wednesday, December 10, 2003

Baker leaving Holland
Furniture maker employs 166, has been fixture in the city since 1933

By LESA INGRAHAM
Staff writer - The Holland Sentinel

After 70 years in Holland, Baker Furniture Co. plans to close the doors of its East 24th Street plant next year.

Company officials notified its 166 employees Tuesday that work at the plant would be phased out over nine months.

"The decision to close our facility in Holland was one of the most difficult we have ever had to make," Dan Bradley, president of Baker, Knapp & Tubbs Inc., which owns Baker Furniture Co., said in a written statement. The Grand Rapids-based company runs three other plants in North Carolina and operations likely will move to those sites, a company spokeswoman said.

Company officials declined further comment, but Baker has been hurt, along with other West Michigan manufacturers, by a severe downturn in demand for high-end residential furniture. The company laid off about 40 production workers in July.

One Baker employee told The Sentinel that staff at the factory were gathered together around 2 p.m. and told a new contract would not be negotiated after production workers' four-year union agreement expires Friday.

The employee, who declined to be named, said there were "hurt feelings" and "a lot of unhappiness" when the announcement was made. But the employee said news of the closing wasn't a complete surprise because of the slowdown in business.

"You would have to be naive not to see it coming," he said.

He said that employees weren't told about severance packages or the possibility of jobs in other Baker facilities.

"That might come later," he said. "They just told us they are going to start gradually moving the operations down south."

A press release from the company said it "will be working proactively to support and assist" the facility's employees, which includes both administrative and production personnel.

While it was founded in 1890 in Allegan, Baker Furniture has deep roots in Holland. The company was moved to Holland in 1933 by Hollis Baker, son of its founder, Siebe Baker.

The company remained in the Baker family until 1969, when it was sold to Magnavox. In 1972 Knapp and Tubbs purchased the business and formed Baker, Knapp & Tubbs. In 1986, Baker, Knapp & Tubbs in turn was purchased by Wisconsin-based Kohler Co.

Former Holland Mayor Neal Berghoef, who retired in 1986 after 29 years at Baker, said Holland is losing part of its history with the plant closing.

"I hate to see it close," said Berghoef, who managed both the Sixth Street plant, where Freedom Village now stands, and the 24th Street plant.

"The history of Baker is really in Holland. It is a piece of history and to see it closing is kind of a disappointment," Berghoef said. "It's sad."

Jane Clark, executive director of the Holland Area Chamber of Commerce, echoed Berghoef's statements.

"It's sad news," Clark said. "It's been a fixture in the community for many years."

The past three years haven't been easy for the residential furniture industry, according to Robert Sligh, chairman of another local furniture maker, Holland-based Sligh Furniture.

Sligh Furniture has experienced similar economic problems to those of Baker, something Sligh said comes in cycles. While he said he thinks there is a future for residential furniture in West Michigan, he doesn't know if it will look the same.

"We are talking about high-end residential furniture, and when the stock market comes down or things change, people stop making those types of purchases," Sligh said.

An industry analyst said the high-end residential furniture market isn't usually hit as hard as other sectors during a recession, but this time was an exception because of the severe downturn in the stock market.

"In 2002 the market collapsed in an alarming way without precedent and people didn't feel as wealthy as they had before," said Jerry Epperson, a furniture industry analyst with Mann, Armistead & Epperson, a Virginia-based research and investment banking firm.

Epperson added he has seen an upswing in the furniture industry in the last few months.

"I think people are starting to buy luxury goods again," Epperson said.

Sligh concurred with that assessment.

"I think it is beginning to rebound a bit. Our orders have been up slightly since about July," he said.

Mary Kay Schoon, program assistant with the Holland office of Michigan Works! employment services, said her organization will try to help the Baker employees.

"We will try to meet with management and then see if we can set up some meetings with the employees," Schoon said. "They can start looking for a job now if they want to."


Baker timeline

* 1890: Founded in Allegan

* 1933: Company moved to Holland

* 1969: Sold to Magnavox

* 1972: Knapp and Tubbs purchased the business and formed Baker, Knapp & Tubbs

* 1986: Baker, Knapp & Tubbs purchased by Wisconsin-based Kohler Co.


2 posted on 12/10/2003 9:01:08 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
" a move that will cost 166 workers their jobs."

I wonder how many of these "workers" were full time union stewards, engaged in blocking the management at every turn and raising overhead far higher than need be?

I can tell you that some union officers can make management so miserable, not because there are real problems but because the guy has to get elected again, that it gets very heavy weight in the equation to shut down/relocate. High quality requires skilled workers and they cost. It is the union obstruction that triggers these decisions. Alas, no management will ever acknowledge that fact; cost considerations are always an easy out.

3 posted on 12/10/2003 9:16:20 AM PST by Tacis
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To: Tacis
"Free trade means more jobs"
"Lost jobs are always replaced with other jobs"
"There is a Santa Claus"
4 posted on 12/10/2003 9:25:52 AM PST by GungaLaGunga
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To: Willie Green
Baker Furniture, like other high-end residential furniture makes in the U.S.A. has been hurt by lower sales.

Part of the reason is that younger buyers do not realize that cheap furniture is a poor bargain. Sure, when you start out you can't afford the best, but one should try to buy a few good pieces as they last and are a good value over the years. They also are usually in classic designs that never go out of style.

The junk sold at the low end falls apart and is made of inferior fake wood or junk wood. Also, a lot of it now is made in the far east and hurts all of us as jobs and value added is there, not in the U.S.A.

5 posted on 12/10/2003 9:36:33 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: Willie Green
Willie, you never offered to tell me how many million of jobs you think should be 'lost' in the normal churn of a free market, capitalist economy that constantly shifts to meet everchanging consumer demands. I have pointed out how, since 1993 27-35 million jobs have been 'lost' each year. Since I don't think you advocate a stagnant economy where consumer preferences never change, new products never come to market, and new technologies are not applied to increase productivity, and thus old production structures and employment patterns are in no need of replacing and therefore eternal. How many jobs should be 'lost' in the course of a year in America's ostensibly capitalist, free market economy?
6 posted on 12/10/2003 9:46:23 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
How many jobs should be 'lost' in the course of a year in America's ostensibly capitalist, free market economy?

It's appropriate for you to qualify your query with the term "ostensibly", because we do not have a capitalist, free market economy. Our economy is heavily perverted by government intervention. The convoluted policies of the current administration serve to benefit only the practitioners of transnational corporatism and should be viewed as an assault against the long term prosperity and security of the American Middle Class.

7 posted on 12/10/2003 10:08:35 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
It's appropriate for you to qualify your query with the term "ostensibly", because we do not have a capitalist, free market economy. Our economy is heavily perverted by government intervention. The convoluted policies of the current administration serve to benefit only the practitioners of transnational corporatism and should be viewed as an assault against the long term prosperity and security of the American Middle Class.

It is however inappropriate to dodge the question again. How many millions of jobs 'should' be lost in the U.S. in a given year? You're not even scraping the surface with your posts, as I've pointed out that for the last decade 27 - 35 million jobs are 'lost' each year. What should it be? You take a stab that that and we can move onto the interesting stuff like how do you know how much it should be.

8 posted on 12/10/2003 10:25:19 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
It is however inappropriate to dodge the question again. How many millions of jobs 'should' be lost in the U.S. in a given year?

I'm not dodging the question, I'm ignoring it.
I consider it to be an adolescently simple-minded troll, somewhat akin to the hackneyed "Did you ever stop beating your wife".
The issue is not job turnover. It is the loss of our independence, self-sufficiency, security and standard of living as globalization merges us into parity with Third World standards.

9 posted on 12/10/2003 11:06:57 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: RicocheT
Chinese junk is just that - junk. Particle board, waffleboard, plastic veneers, it all falls apart if you look at it cross-eyed or set a cigar and scotch on it.

Your suggestion that young people should buy at least one good piece of furniture is a good one.

Where I find fault is that the US furniture makers are not advertising the quality of their goods as opposed to the commie junk. If you want to get noticed, you need to speak up. American furniture has been known for its craftsmanship and quality since the 1770s, when European makers started arriving here and setting up small furniture factories.

That quality still exists. Furniture makers need to start educating potential customers.

All they need to do is set up a camera at the local dump, take some video and do a voice-over that says: "This is the guarantee you get when you buy junk Chinese furniture - it ends up in the dump. Guaranteed."
10 posted on 12/10/2003 11:13:07 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Tacis
It is inevitable that soon the chinese will own business
in The U.S. in a very short time.Apparently the wealthy business owners dont care after all they have their money.
The Bush administration seems to be Chinas little lapdog worried about offending the oppressive prison country which
they feel are such great trading partners. I hate to tell you this but the U.S. is in for a rude awakening the chinese dont care about money the way we do they see money as the key to the rise of their hegemon of the rest of the world please see Tiawan as my prime example! So when you go to bat for well heeled management types just remember who they cow-tow to their chinese benefactors!
11 posted on 12/10/2003 11:28:09 AM PST by claptrap
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To: Tacis
It is inevitable that soon the chinese will own business
in The U.S. in a very short time.Apparently the wealthy business owners dont care after all they have their money.
The Bush administration seems to be Chinas little lapdog worried about offending the oppressive prison country which
they feel are such great trading partners. I hate to tell you this but the U.S. is in for a rude awakening the chinese dont care about money the way we do they see money as the key to the rise of their hegemon of the rest of the world please see Tiawan as my prime example! So when you go to bat for well heeled management types just remember who they cow-tow to their chinese benefactors!
12 posted on 12/10/2003 11:28:10 AM PST by claptrap
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To: Willie Green
I'm not dodging the question, I'm ignoring it.

That's not entirely true. Initially you said that the current churn was a sign of an unstable economy. I ask simply for clarification. What 'should' the job churn be? You clearly feel you know how much is too much, so share with me how much is enough, and how much is too little.

It is the loss of our independence, self-sufficiency, security and standard of living as globalization merges us into parity with Third World standards.

If you want economic independence and self sufficiency you're welcome to it. But having lived on a family farm myself, I gotta tell you that life isn't what I want, or many other Americans either.

You see a symptom (trade imbalances) of something that you know is a problem, but you have a remedy for the symptom (not the actual disease) that is nearly as bad as the disease itself. Instead of recognizing our problems stem from profligate monetary creation, you have attacked trade itself, the very process by which men improve their lives. Return the nation to a sound currency and the trade imbalances that vex you will be addressed by the market. Putting up trade barriers while the emperor runs the printing press isn't going to help, it will only exacerbate the problems.

13 posted on 12/10/2003 11:30:30 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Willie Green
and should be viewed as an assault against the long term prosperity and security of the American Middle Class.

And what are the effects on the long term prosperity and security of the American Upper Class and the American Lower Class?

Remember Willie, you can't have an American Middle Class if there is no American Upper and Lower Class.

14 posted on 12/10/2003 11:34:53 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: Gunslingr3
But having lived on a family farm myself, I gotta tell you that life isn't what I want, or many other Americans either.

So leave. Nobody's stopping you. I'm more concerned with those who want to stay and prosper. If you want to leave, good riddance.

15 posted on 12/10/2003 11:42:08 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: been_lurking
And what are the effects on the long term prosperity and security of the American Upper Class and the American Lower Class?

Prosperity is lopsided and divergent, benefitting primarily the former. This short-sightedness is what leads to declining security for all, no matter their economic status.

Remember Willie, you can't have an American Middle Class if there is no American Upper and Lower Class.

But the existance of an Upper and Lower does not determine that a Middle will continue to expand and prosper.

16 posted on 12/10/2003 11:50:41 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Gunslingr3
Instead of recognizing our problems stem from profligate monetary creation, you have attacked trade itself, the very process by which men improve their lives.

No. Man has improved life on earth by converting raw materials and natural resources into more useful forms utilizing continually improving technologies. Trade may or may not facilitate this process under different sets of circumstances, but trade is NOT "the very process by which men improve their lives".

17 posted on 12/10/2003 12:05:21 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
But having lived on a family farm myself, I gotta tell you that life isn't what I want, or many other Americans either.

So leave. Nobody's stopping you. I'm more concerned with those who want to stay and prosper. If you want to leave, good riddance.

Leave the family farm? Already did. My standard of living went up too!

Of course you're still dodging the question of how many jobs should be 'lost' each year in a capitalist, free market economy. It makes the posts about "200 jobs lost", etc. pointless without reference. I guess tacit acknowledgement of the fact you have no freaking clue is as close as I'll get to an answer on that.

Help me with this puzzle. If we trade dollars to Japan for a car, and they trade those dollars to Kuwait for oil, and Kuwait trades those dollars to the U.S. for an Abrams tank, how do you figure out who has an imbalance to whom? Is anyone worse off?

18 posted on 12/10/2003 12:08:09 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Willie Green
No. Man has improved life on earth by converting raw materials and natural resources into more useful forms utilizing continually improving technologies. Trade may or may not facilitate this process under different sets of circumstances, but trade is NOT "the very process by which men improve their lives".

Then go a month without trade and tell me what happens. I'd like to see how many raw materials you personally harvest and personally convert into more useful forms to achieve your current standard of living. The 98% of the U.S. not currently working on a farm are going to get awfully hungry without being able to trade. Trade is what permits specialization and is an incalculable factor of the enormous productivity we enjoy. How long, without trade, do you think it would take you to personally harvest the raw materials and convert them into an automobile or a computer? How many hours would you have to put into your current job to buy an automobile or a computer?

19 posted on 12/10/2003 12:15:16 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: claptrap
I hate to tell you this but the U.S. is in for a rude awakening the chinese dont care about money the way we do they see money as the key to the rise of their hegemon of the rest of the world please see Tiawan as my prime example!

Interesting you mentioned this.

We know of a auto repair that is in escrow.

A Taiwanese group just bought it.

The current owner of 30 years, tells me the Taiwanese are going to raise prices, for repair and parts, and hire their own mechanics. It's just a little 4 bay shop.

Sad, they used to serve free coffee, did real good repair work, they were really personable and friendly.

Friday is the last day.

20 posted on 12/10/2003 12:19:01 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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