Freedom Is In The Air (cough)(SMOKEFREE D.C. CREMATED)

TheAmericanSpectator ^ | Published 12/10/2003 12:08:48 AM | By Gene Healy

[fight_truth_decay]

...adult Americans can't be trusted to weigh the risks of their lifestyle choices themselves -- a notion far more noxious than cigarette smoke... Well said!

[jmc813]

WOD Ping

[jmc813]

This year, the movement came to Washington, D.C. Backed by a $250,000 grant from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, the antismoking activists of Smokefree D.C. began lobbying the city council.

Say, ol' chaps, isn't that the same gun-grabbing organization who is the Daddy Warbucks of the ONDCP?

[jmc813]

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[ILBBACH]

This statement bothers me:

At one point, the owner of the nightclub Mirage averred that pregnant women had no place in smoke-filled bars, Schwartz cut him short, saying that it was up to the woman herself to make that choice.

So does Schwartz believe that owners have no say in who works at or patronizes their establishments?

[CSM]

I am shocked beyond beleif!

[Gabz]

Goodness gracious - look where some common sense is rearing it's head!!!!

[dread78645]

" ... haunted by the notion that someone, somewhere is having fun." Bump.

[Gabz]

GMTA!!!!!

[Just another Joe]

Well, well, well, a politician that gets it.
You can bet that this politician will be demonized in the next few weeks due to this decision.

[Texan5]

A glimmer of common sense-will wonders never cease? I think a lot of people are becoming unwilling to drink the kool-aide any more....

[Gabz]

The entire council is going to get demonized, as you well know.

But as is pointed out - there are already well over 200 smoke-free venues in DC as it is. And the people who pointed this out are the same ones backing the total ban. Common sense would tell me that if those venues are doing such booming business others will follow. Sheesh.

But what we also know is that if they don't push for the total ban they lose their cushy jobs because RWJF wouldn't give them any money......

[CSM]

"GMTA!!!!!"

OK, my internent lack of intelligence is showing. I have no idea what that means.....;-)

[Gabz]

You're right.

Even with the nearly total media support for these bans, and near blackout of any information of their utter failure - the information is getting out.

Thanks in large part to places like FR and groups like the Puff List, etc...............

A few more slap downs like this and maybe, just maybe someone will wake up.

[Gabz]

Great Minds Think Alike.

We were both pinging each other to this thread at the same time!!!

[CSM]

There is 260 restaurants on their list. The problem for them is that probably 200 of them are fast food and mall food court places. Of the remaining ones, very few are actually adult tavern type places. The breakdown makes sense to me, but the anti must just hate it!

[CSM]

Ahhhhh, I get it. It is clear as a bell now........I have a goal to learn at least one thing every day and you have allowed me to meet my quota. Thanks.

[Gabz]

The antis hate anything that doesn't agree with them.

The antis are going apoplectic about the fact that a very vocal critic of the smoking ban, who owns a bar, is running for Governor in Delaware.

I bet they are having total fits this morning because a tavern owner just announced he is running for Mayor of the city of Dover.

2 long term Delaware legislators lost their seats in the last election and both agreed it was primarily because they supported the smoking ban.........their districts covered the beach areas of the state - just over the line from maryland.

[fight_truth_decay]

But should a tax-breaks-for-smokefree-bars proposal "thumb be placed on the scale when a bar or restaurant owner is weighing the benefits of staying smoke friendly or going smoke-free"?

[Gabz]

Government always places their thunb on the scale with everything in the tax code.

It's for the children, don't ya know!!!