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Dispute Over Land Prompts 13-Hour Standoff Between a Family and Deputies; Two Officers Killed
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| December 9,2003
| Jeffrey Collins
Posted on 12/09/2003 2:56:08 AM PST by John W
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To: Cultural Jihad
Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophesy. This guy was a dangerous nut.
41
posted on
12/09/2003 6:06:11 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: sauropod
In a perfect world, all the hills' contours would have conspired to allow for always-spacious roads, all builders from 80 years ago would have had the foresight and gift of prophesy to envision what the needs of future generations would be, and there would be no need to adjudicate the accommodations of others in a community. In a perfect world there would be no self-centered nutcases itching for any excuse to commit murder, too.
To: sauropod
I'm reading and it doesn't seem to
directly relate to a land dispute, but to something else.
It began Monday morning when a magistrate's officer went to the house in a rural part of the state to follow up on an incident from the previous week involving a dispute between Department of Transportation workers and someone from the house, officials said.
and A dispute Thursday between state transportation workers and someone from the home on Highway 72 precipitated the incident, DOT spokesman Pete Poore said.
They couldn't have been in the process of widening the road on Thursday, they don't have the land yet, right? If we ever get to hear more about the nature of this dispute, it might shed some light on what happened later. Or maybe not.
But I have to say it's looking to me like they were laying in wait for somebody with a badge to show up, ever since the incident (whatever it was) on Thursday. They took the deputy hostage when he showed up.
To: Cultural Jihad
This is when the scumsucker element of FR emerge through the sewer holes.
To: sauropod
That's what I thought ---- the highway is practically running through his house now ---- they want to take his whole tiny front yard?
45
posted on
12/09/2003 6:20:10 AM PST
by
FITZ
To: ArneFufkin
As my father used to say: 'I'd rather tame a fanatic than raise the dead.'
46
posted on
12/09/2003 6:21:57 AM PST
by
Frapster
(John 3:16)
To: AppyPappy
It's easy to say until they take your house. They're moving some poor, mostly older people out of their homes in the poorest side of town to build a school --- but most won't afford new houses. It's kind of hard when the house you're living in is worth about $20,000 but there are no other houses around for that.
47
posted on
12/09/2003 6:22:37 AM PST
by
FITZ
To: FITZ
---- they want to take his whole tiny front yard?
And, and, and rub out the little flower garden! Oh, the botany!
To: visualops
I'm no fan of excessive use of force by LEOs, or of arrogant government. Nor do I think we need to ask "how high" when Caesar asks us to jump. (FWIW, I believe some Christians stretch the meaning of Biblical passages like Romans 13 to advocate absolute nonresistance to state tyranny.)
Nevertheless, we have to recognize that it is impossible for societies to exist without public utilities such as roads, fire departments, telephone lines, etc. The U.S. Constitution permits Federal government "takings" of private property provided due process is followed and just compensation is offered. State constitutions generally have parallel provisions. Provided the South Carolina authorities followed the constitutional guidelines, they were justified in requiring that the family leave the premises.
To: John W
AntiAmerican litterature? Whether the perp was a racist, antigovernment illiterate type or did not wish to go to the courts to literate us about the situation, it is no reason for LE and the media to engage in such illiterate and racist behavior and cheap shots.
To: Cultural Jihad
I can make accurate pronouncements based on the photos.
The Bixby house has had low ceiling room added to the rear. The next door house has had the garage converted to a room. The stone house with the cathederal windows is most telling. Here you can see, on the front of the home, a vertical HVAC discharge duct that elbows into the attic. That duct is likely 18 gauge and is acting as support column. To the left of it you can see where the corner of the house has settled and above the duct there is a large crack where the roof and the eave attach.
From the article we know that Bixby bought the house in '94. I would suggest that at the time he bought the house, the road was already a traffic jam and anyone with common sense would conclude that the road would be widened eventually. Futhermore, in '94 the planning commission had likely already published their intent to widen the road. Municipal projects of this nature generally lag 15-20 years behind time.
Was Bixby taking a financial hit on this? Not hardly. Any loss of value as owner-occupied residential would not apply to the property as a rental unit. Addionally, the widening of the road would hasten the commercial value of the property, which will always be higher than residential.
These men are kooks and anyone that condones their actions are also kooks.
BTW, did you know that there were cuniform tablets unearthed that document the fact that when the irrigation canals were built in Sumer 6000 years ago, some of the property owners had their land condemned?
To: Cultural Jihad
As if cold-blooded murderous kooks are pro-Constitution. LOL - I know what you mean. The day a cop becomes pro-Constitution will be the day that hell freezes over.
52
posted on
12/09/2003 6:26:56 AM PST
by
Jim Cane
To: FITZ
I suppose the answer to that is to kill people. Good answer.
53
posted on
12/09/2003 6:27:58 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: Cultural Jihad
I agree that this rash and murderous outcome is nothing to celebrate.
However I have to take a point with you. It said the person involved was 70 years old. If this was a "self-centered nutcase(s) itching for any excuse to commit murder", I think he would have had ample time to do it before this.
Just an observation.
54
posted on
12/09/2003 6:29:15 AM PST
by
bc2
(http://www.thinkforyourself.us)
To: AppyPappy
I didn't say they should kill people --- but the government putting a road right up to a window would destroy the value of his house if he ever wanted to sell it. I realize that the government really owns everything and can kick us off our property any time it wishes.
55
posted on
12/09/2003 6:30:40 AM PST
by
FITZ
To: Jim Cane
LOL - I know what you mean. The day a cop becomes pro-Constitution will be the day that hell freezes over. Some of these cops are so illiterate and prosecutorialy-politicaly correct one-sided about the cases they are even sent for, it is scary. The constitution? Ah! Try have them do their job and provide you an accurate situational awareness of the case... then maybe we can start talking about testing them on the constitution.
Cops, in the US and like everywhere else seem to be trained to be idiots at times.
To: AppyPappy
I suppose the answer to that is to kill people. Good answer.killing people is not the issue, but murder
It is the wrong strategy, I agree. That said, an honest duel on his property would settle it - meaning a frank armed stand off declared and a following battle.
The trap he apparently made of his house for the cops coming was no fair play, IMHO, but plain murder.
To: Cultural Jihad
As if cold-blooded murderous kooks are pro-Constitution. It's probably time to ban the Constitution. It no longer applies but it gives some kooks the idea that they own the property they bought.
58
posted on
12/09/2003 6:37:57 AM PST
by
FITZ
To: Jim Cane
It is noted that your words are ridiculing the guardians of Constitutional rights.
To: John W
Whew! Eminent Domain is a b*tch, it would seem.
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