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Andrew Sullivan: Hillary, the Hawk
The Sunday Times via andrewsullivan.com ^ | 12/07/03 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 12/08/2003 1:44:41 PM PST by Pokey78

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1 posted on 12/08/2003 1:44:41 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; mombonn; DallasMike; austinTparty; MHGinTN; RottiBiz; WaterDragon; DB; ...
Sullivan ping.
2 posted on 12/08/2003 1:45:26 PM PST by Pokey78 ("I thought this country was founded on a principle of progressive taxation." Wesley Clark to Russert)
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To: mr.pink
First Newt and Safire and now it looks like Andrew Sullivan is the winner, though I liked your Bennett prediction.


Lots of Hillary Republicans coming out of the woodwork in case they need to bail on George W. '92 Redux.



3 posted on 12/08/2003 1:47:05 PM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: Pokey78
BEHOLD THE MARXIST MESSIAH!

Here's ONE Clinton who won't dodge the draft...


4 posted on 12/08/2003 1:51:06 PM PST by Old Sarge ("My lord, I stand upon the watchtower in the daytime, I am set in my ward whole night" Isaiah 21)
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To: Pokey78
Hillary's enormous gift is that the left of the party adores her, almost regardless of what she says or does.

They are really brainless clods, aren’t they?

If somebody like, say Nancy Pelosi, did the damage to feminism that she has, they’d burn her in effigy.

If somebody like, say John Kerry, undermined their “pull out the troops” screeching, they’d chase him up into some windmill with torches and pitch forks. Then they’d light the windmill on fire.

But when Hillary does it, they swoon and slip in the wet spot they just splashed on the floor. And the liberal women are just as fawning as the men.

5 posted on 12/08/2003 1:52:11 PM PST by dead (I used to believe in a lot of things. All of it! Now I believe only in dynamite.)
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To: JohnGalt
I can't really count Sullivan as any sort of surprise on this matter.

I think Bennett has a standing tuesday's gig on Hannity & Colmes...I'll check tomorrow and see if he's quit the Lieberman campaign and starts to pitch some woo in Hil's direction. ;o)
6 posted on 12/08/2003 1:54:25 PM PST by mr.pink
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To: Pokey78
Recently Hillary was found grazing with a herd of cattle. The rancher said she really stuck out with the black pantsuit, big behind, and those huge ankles. After the rancher ran her off, the cattle thanked him. It seems she mooed too loud, ate all the grass, and smelled bad.
7 posted on 12/08/2003 1:58:35 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Ignorance can be corrected with knowledge. Stupid is permanent.)
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To: Pokey78
I was thinking more like "Hillary, the Old Buzzard"
8 posted on 12/08/2003 2:00:16 PM PST by Steel Wolf (Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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One thing Hill must accomplish to become electable is to prove herself as an executive. Look for her to leave the Senate in 2006 and be a CEO or something. Also look for more mistakes between now and 2008, maybe some howlers. Her handlers are removing the layers of protection around her because it is obvious the person Hillary Clinton has to develop abilities in the real world.
9 posted on 12/08/2003 2:00:22 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Pokey78
But all of that plays into Hillary's hands as well. Almost certainly, she has no plans to run for president next year. But the more the Democratic candidates degenerate into anti-war shrillness and the further they drift away from a decent chance at beating Bush, the better situated she is to take control of the party machinery after a Bush re-election; and the easier it will be for her to run from the center in 2008.
There's no way she's going to get in this election. She's going to be pulling for Dean, just like we are, and for a parallel reason. A Dean victory in the RAT primary means a Bush victory in the general election. Which is what we want, because we like W. And is what she wants, because it positions her for the big time in '08.
10 posted on 12/08/2003 2:13:37 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Pokey78
She's a trasnformer...
Shrew into Hawk
11 posted on 12/08/2003 2:15:15 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: dead
Hillary's enormous gift is that the left of the party adores her, almost regardless of what she says or does.
They are really brainless clods, aren’t they?


The same can be said of the Kool-Aid drinking Republicans who say they want smaller government, but still support Bush after this Medicare fiasco.
12 posted on 12/08/2003 3:09:33 PM PST by axxmann
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I watched Hillary on Russert yesterday, and she is a master at evading questions. She's a scary woman. I've talked to people who love her.
13 posted on 12/08/2003 3:23:32 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: axxmann
"The same can be said of the Kool-Aid drinking Republicans who say they want smaller government, but still support Bush after this Medicare fiasco."

You're right. We should just have given that issue to Dean or Hitlery, so they can give them their Socialism, when they become President, running on that issue. Or any of the other issues President Bush has taken away from the Democrats before they could use them to reclaim real power. Do you think that Dean or Hitlery could never be elected President?

Do you think that Bush is a Monarch that can do what he wants? That he is your President, not the nation's President. Do you think that President Bush could not be voted out by the half of the country that voted for Gore. Short memories act to our detriment. Fortunately the Bush administration has taken the lessons of 2000 and the last decade well.

Perhaps you should take up these issues with the Americans that would vote for who ever will give them what they want. I thank God everyday that Bush is President, instead of Gore. And that he will remain so for another 4 years, instead of Dean or Hitlery.

Don't let us be doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past, by forgetting them.
14 posted on 12/08/2003 3:33:07 PM PST by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: axxmann
The Medicare fiasco sucks. But I don't think most Bush supporters will suddenly announce that they agree with him that it was the right thing to do. Hillary's supporters honestly convince themselves that if she did something, it was the right thing to do.

Bush did the craven and completely wrong thing on Medicare. But when he's name is on the ballot next to Howard Dean's, what am I going to do?

I cannot subject my country's foreign policy decisions to a French veto, no matter what spending fiascos Bush throws at us.

I'm too old to learn to speak arabic.

15 posted on 12/08/2003 3:35:12 PM PST by dead (I used to believe in a lot of things. All of it! Now I believe only in dynamite.)
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To: Pokey78
Hillary! has one nightmare that cannot be managed or wished away. She has a L-O-N-G audit trail. Just before any national election in which she runs, the gate will open, say, 72 hours ahead of the vote. Remember how the "news flash" about W's DUI nearly ended his run for the presidency 72 hours before the 2000 election? Just wait until this horror of a woman is about to face the vote. Her handlers will have aneurisms.
16 posted on 12/08/2003 3:48:56 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
That's scary.
17 posted on 12/08/2003 4:45:40 PM PST by MEG33
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To: axxmann
I guess Dean can save you.
18 posted on 12/08/2003 4:51:09 PM PST by MEG33
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To: pabianice
Hillary! has one nightmare that cannot be managed or wished away. She has a L-O-N-G audit trail. Just before any national election in which she runs, the gate will open, say, 72 hours ahead of the vote. Remember how the "news flash" about W's DUI nearly ended his run for the presidency 72 hours before the 2000 election? Just wait until this horror of a woman is about to face the vote. Her handlers will have aneurisms.

Hillary may have a long audit trail, but she also had a long DEATH list of people who opposed her and her husband. Don't get in her way.

19 posted on 12/08/2003 7:12:19 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: pabianice
Remember how the "news flash" about W's DUI nearly ended his run for the presidency 72 hours before the 2000 election? Just wait until this horror of a woman is about to face the vote. Her handlers will have aneurisms.

The media will protect the Hildebeast regardless of the uncounted atrocities she has committed.

20 posted on 12/08/2003 8:11:06 PM PST by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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