Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

U.S. Citizens Must Be Protected, Controlled, Regulated and Intimidated For Their Own Good
Too Good Reports ^ | Dec. 8, 2003 | Fred Reed

Posted on 12/08/2003 8:28:43 AM PST by Middle Man

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-79 next last
To: Gunner9mm
But the beers are great (Dos Equis, Carta Blanca, etc, etc)
21 posted on 12/08/2003 10:25:39 AM PST by Middle Man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: snopercod
A riding teacher years ago showed me some medicine for kidney ailments in horses that had a label stating "Suitable for use by Man or beast". ;^)
22 posted on 12/08/2003 10:28:25 AM PST by Middle Man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Ancesthntr
BTTT
23 posted on 12/08/2003 10:30:51 AM PST by Middle Man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Middle Man
BUMP!
24 posted on 12/08/2003 10:35:29 AM PST by Constitution Day (Please do not emanate into the penumbra.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marlon
The problem with this is that antibiotics are already way over perscribed. This is exascerbated in countries like Mexico and other 3rd world nations who don't require perscriptions for them. We are creating super-germs that are becomming ammune to antibotics and soon we will have no defense against them.

Good point. The people with a medicine cabinet full of half-used bottles of antibiotics are more of a threat to public health than the ones with a bag of pot in their nightstand.

25 posted on 12/08/2003 10:36:22 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Ancesthntr; agitator
"...there's no money in it for the authorities to be repressive, certainly not as repressive as the laws in Mexico allow them to be. However, if there's a way to relieve someone of their money, rest assured that the policia will find it."

I've heard traffic court in America referred to as a "sheep-shearing conveyor belt", and after experiencing it once first-hand believe our bandoleros in blue have found a way.

I called "911" after a burglary years ago and the responding officer was little more than bemused and bored as he filled out a report for the insurance company.

26 posted on 12/08/2003 10:40:07 AM PST by Middle Man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Ignatz
He claimed that the antibiotics were not actually creating the "superbugs", but that the "superbugs" already existed. The "everyday" bugs were being killed-off routinely by the antibiotics, making incidents of infection by the "superbugs" seem more serious.

I think that part of the problem is that we've gone overboard on making everything "sanitary" - we're crippling our immune systems from disuse. You read about people getting deathly ill from e-coli they got in a burger at a fast food place, but never about anyone who lives on a ranch or cattle farm getting ill from it, and they're exposed to it every day.

27 posted on 12/08/2003 10:41:38 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Middle Man
Suppose that you were subject to, say, horrendous sinus infections or earaches. In America, by law you would have to get an appointment with a doctor, $75, thank you-when he had time, how about day after tomorrow, whereupon he would give you a prescription for amoxicillin, fifteen bucks and a trip to a pharmacy. If this happened on a Friday, you would either slit your wrists by Saturday evening to avoid the torture, or go to an emergency room, however distant, where they would charge you a fortune and give you a prescription for amoxicillin.

In Mexico, upon recognizing the familiar symptoms, you would go to the nearest farmacia and buy the amoxicillin. The agony would be nipped in the bud (presuming that agony has buds). The doctor would not get $75, which is against all principles of medicine. The pharmacist would not lose his license, as he would in the United States.

That's the way it was I visited France also on a college vacation. I got s minor intestinal infection by eating something no good, and I went to the nearest pharmacie and got an antibiotic in capsule form, after telling the pharmacist that I did not want the suppository form ;-)
28 posted on 12/08/2003 10:46:52 AM PST by george wythe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunStar
Americans ignore some laws only because we have been legislated to death and can't keep up with what the offense du jour is.
29 posted on 12/08/2003 10:48:20 AM PST by Middle Man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: george wythe
On trips to England I have used the National Health Service. I am not for socialized medicine but have to say about countries like Britain and Japan: At least they get something back for all the taxes they pay!

We Americans get nothing, plus our state-of-the-art defense systems can't even stop the occasional ragtag terrorist cell armed with box cutters, except to make air travel even more miserable for us.

30 posted on 12/08/2003 10:55:13 AM PST by Middle Man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Middle Man
We Americans get nothing, plus our state-of-the-art defense systems can't even stop the occasional ragtag terrorist cell armed with box cutters, except to make air travel even more miserable for us.

Well, I don't agree that we "get nothing" but I do agree about the state of the art-defenses not stopping the terrorists. What's really bizarre is that after the security checks and intel failed, the first thing the did was disarm the one thing that did work.

31 posted on 12/08/2003 10:59:12 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: thoughtomator
"Count on economic development to change that."

Axiom derived from anecdotal evidence: if there's enough "fat of the land" for a parasitic criminal class -- be they a criminal underclass or government employees -- they will be emboldened to operate in the open without fear of punishment.

32 posted on 12/08/2003 11:02:28 AM PST by Middle Man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic
At the moment though employed I do not have health insurance for my family and me (can't afford it and at $500+-a-month premiums they cover next to nothing anyway). As a self-employed contractor, the only people I know who have affordable health care and peace of mind are either themselves government employees or have a spouse who works for government, either federal, state or local.
33 posted on 12/08/2003 11:07:20 AM PST by Middle Man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic
I get it but that was not my understanding of the problem. If it is as you say, and I don't know for sure, then I would agree with your point. My understanding was that in many cases germs are becomming stronger, kinda of like a Darwinian thing. The strongest survive and are either immune to or much more resistant to antiibotics. In that scenario then today's antibiotics couldn't fight them off.
34 posted on 12/08/2003 11:14:20 AM PST by marlon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Middle Man
Well, we can't have some petty bureaucrat showing up to check on your building permits spreading germs to you and you crew, can we?
35 posted on 12/08/2003 11:14:37 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Middle Man
"Have you ever wondered how much good the endless surveillance, preaching, and rules really do?"

Good question. They will lead to a collective nervous breakdown.

36 posted on 12/08/2003 11:15:13 AM PST by The Westerner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: snopercod
Do you need a vet's prescription to buy those or can you buy them over the counter?

They took PPA (used to be in Dimetapp) off the market for humans due to junk science and replaced it with something that causes severe rebound effects and hypertension. But PPA is still available for pets. But I thought you needed a vet's prescription, because I looked into ordering it on the web.

37 posted on 12/08/2003 11:16:57 AM PST by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: The Westerner; Middle Man
There is a middle ground somewhere.

I agree there are so many rules they lead to confusion and disdain for the law. On the otherhand, Pedro is walking home with a drink in his hand or at best riding his horse or mule, he's not driving 2 tons of metal at 70 miles an hour.
And I have a friend who was arrested for public drunkeness in Mexico. So they aren't rule free either.

38 posted on 12/08/2003 11:20:11 AM PST by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Middle Man
In Mexico, upon recognizing the familiar symptoms, you would go to the nearest farmacia and buy the amoxicillin. The agony would be nipped in the bud (presuming that agony has buds). The doctor would not get $75, which is against all principles of medicine. The pharmacist would not lose his license, as he would in the United States. See? Criminality is legal in Mexico. That´s how bad things are.

oh, so THAT's where all the super-bugs are coming from - self-medicating peasants SOTB.

39 posted on 12/08/2003 11:21:57 AM PST by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marlon
When people are prescribed antibiotics, they often stop taking them as soon as they feel better. At this point, the antibiotics have killed most of the infection, but there are still some left. These are the ones that are resistant, and by not finishing them off they insure that that trait gets passed on.
40 posted on 12/08/2003 11:32:23 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-79 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson