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1 posted on 12/06/2003 11:30:13 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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You lose me when you talk about Perot's mistake. Perot was paid off by the Clintons to split the Bush vote. If you'll go back and look, Perot dropped out of the race the week of the rat convention, and got back in when Clinton started dropping in the polls. Perot never wanted to be President.
59 posted on 12/06/2003 7:33:54 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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I am sorry to hear you wasted so much time writing this drivel.
73 posted on 12/07/2003 8:12:19 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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Nice effort.

I notice you didn't include the libertarians as their own party. They really aren't so much a party as they are a smug chaos. There is more firmness, stability, and moral clarity in a cup of tepid bilge water.

82 posted on 12/07/2003 9:22:56 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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The Bushies push their agenda, which leaves the Republicans confused. For example: Some Republicans are totally bewildered by Bush's not securing our border with Mexico, and allowing thousands of illegals to cross every day. And the President making stupid statements like "Islam is a religion of peace" or "we worship the same God." A major example is the Bushies incredible socialistic Medicare spending bill just passed, that robs the young to pay for the olds medical bills. Well if you think the Bushies are Republicans you are bound to be confused.

Well, until you remember that politicians are craven and cowardly, as a rule.

So in this presidential election cycle of 2004, it's the Bushies vs. the Socialists with the Democrats, Republicans and Clintonistas looking on.

Interesting analysis, I like it.


85 posted on 12/07/2003 10:19:54 AM PST by Sabertooth (Credit where it's due: saveourlicense.com prevented SB60, and the Illegal Alien CDLs... for now.)
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Parties are organized structures or on-going institutions. Clintonistas, Bushites, Deanites, Buchananites, McCainites, Naderites, Chomskyites, the Kennedy crowd, etc. are more fluid, less organized factions or the personal followings of individual leaders. Socialists, neocons, and paleocons fit somewhere in between. Such factions are less tied to individual leaders, but don't have the organization and continuity of actual parties. There will always be moderate-conservative Republicans and center-left Democrats, but if the "Bushite" and "Clintonite" labels have stuck, it's because these families have become dynasties.

Yet American politics are more complicated and confused than the two party system and most partisan arguments indicate. For one thing, divisions on economic issues don't line up exactly with the the fault lines on social and cultural questions. For another, people tend to assume that those on the other side are more united, more organized, and more passionate than they really are. In any random sample of people who identify themselves as Democrats or Republicans, one's apt to find a wide variety of opinions and views on current issues and very different degrees of political committment.

86 posted on 12/07/2003 10:21:16 AM PST by x
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