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Grand Junction Sentinel ^ | 12/05/03 | Editorial

Posted on 12/05/2003 8:22:09 PM PST by Holly_P

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I have seen signs in some towns in Tennessee banning the use of "Jake brakes"
1 posted on 12/05/2003 8:22:09 PM PST by Holly_P
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To: Holly_P
I hope the first runaway truck hits city hall.
2 posted on 12/05/2003 8:24:06 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: Holly_P
Many small towns in Pennsylvania have 'No-Jake-Brake Zones' and with good reason. If you live next to a road used by truckers 24/7, you had better have earplugs, or sleep in a back-bedroom. It is like a stoner with a limitless amplifier screaming 'Wahhhhhh!'
3 posted on 12/05/2003 8:27:17 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: Holly_P
I have seen signs in some towns in Tennessee banning the use of "Jake brakes"

I've seen them, too, in areas where housing complexes meet the highway. Perhaps those folks living near airports should take note and try to get jet engines banned.

4 posted on 12/05/2003 8:27:55 PM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: Petronski
i live right behind a fire station where the big engine has a Jake. You get used to it. Even sirens don't bother me now.

There no good reason to not have Jake brake. One of the coolest inventions since the toaster.

5 posted on 12/05/2003 8:29:03 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: randog
A jet cannot take off quietly. A semi can enter a residential district quietly by slowing down before reaching the residences.
6 posted on 12/05/2003 8:29:21 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: AdamSelene235
I'm hoping that some diesel savy person will tell me in not too techinal terms just how jake brakes work. Also what's the difference between jake brakes and pak brakes?
7 posted on 12/05/2003 8:30:13 PM PST by Holly_P (Guys...just because you have one, doesn't mean you have to be one.)
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I don't have any way to know about the hills normally encountered by fully-loaded semis near your home, but if you tune it out, God bless you. Most people cannot sleep through such a racket.
8 posted on 12/05/2003 8:31:45 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: Holly_P
How about the trucks just get better brakes? If the truckers can't control their vehicles, that is on them.
9 posted on 12/05/2003 8:31:49 PM PST by glorgau
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I found what I was looking for here:

http://www.howstuffworks.com/question134.htm
10 posted on 12/05/2003 8:33:03 PM PST by Holly_P (Guys...just because you have one, doesn't mean you have to be one.)
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How about the trucks just get better brakes?

That's entire point of a Jake brake...

11 posted on 12/05/2003 8:34:17 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: glorgau
A truck can stop effectively without the Jake, but the standard brakes will wear out sooner.
12 posted on 12/05/2003 8:35:09 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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A semi can enter a residential district quietly by slowing down before reaching the residences.

Have you ever driven through Vail. Its like in Rockies, dude...And the Rockies are like, really, really bumpy.

13 posted on 12/05/2003 8:35:46 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: Holly_P
Jake Brakes (now however called engind-brakes as Jacobs sued Santa Fé over the name) have been disallowed in many cities here in NM for at least 20 years.
14 posted on 12/05/2003 8:38:52 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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You so smart.

Semis can stop without jakebrakes no matter the terrain. The Jake saves brake pads, but is not necessary for safe operation.

15 posted on 12/05/2003 8:39:41 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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Semis can stop without jakebrakes no matter the terrain.

Fascinating. I-70 has about about a 6000 ft drop in elevation. I have to use engine breaking to get my truck and even my motorcycle safely down from Vail.

Vail is packed full of insufferable rich liberals and Saudi royalty. It should make a nice runaway truck ramp.

16 posted on 12/05/2003 8:46:48 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: AdamSelene235
Often, truths are fascinating if only for their newness.
17 posted on 12/05/2003 8:49:18 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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So there is no problem in riding an 18 wheeler's brakes all the way from the top of the continental divide, down to Denver?
18 posted on 12/05/2003 8:51:50 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: Petronski
Not true.

They do have a very good safety reason.

Overheating your breaks will cause all sorts of nasty problems. From complete break failure to blown up tires in the most extreme situations. A fully loaded big rig having to use breaks down a long hill has a very good chance of overheating them to one degree or another.

Their not just trying to save money on break pads.

I don't think they should be used in or near residential areas though.

Our city bans them at the city limit, but it's pretty much flat, so no big deal. You have to ban them in town cause some of the truck drivers just get use to using them, and just don't think about it.

19 posted on 12/05/2003 8:55:10 PM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: Petronski
You've never driven a heavy vehicle, have you?

Never used engine compression to slow down? Wow... do you actually *have* a drivers license?
20 posted on 12/05/2003 9:00:26 PM PST by Ramius
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