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Hasta la vista, baby vigilante ranchers have taken security into their own gun-totin' hands
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | December 6, 2003 | Caroline Overington

Posted on 12/05/2003 8:49:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 12/05/2003 8:50:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sometimes that's what's necessary. There's an urban legend that Arizona mobilized its National Guard to prevent California from diverting away a large portion of the Colorado River.

Sometimes violence is a rational response, rather than a sign of dementia. Laws against illegal immigration are valid and someone needs to enforce them.
2 posted on 12/05/2003 8:52:36 AM PST by .cnI redruM ( l = w + w. Two wrongs equal a left.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gotta watch out for those Baby Vigilante Ranchers...
3 posted on 12/05/2003 8:54:06 AM PST by danneskjold
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I see that the Aussie reporter has a very active imagination. Certainly she isn't reporting any real facts.
4 posted on 12/05/2003 8:55:30 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
..."It would take a particularly patient and sympathetic person to tolerate the intrusion and Morales is not that person. She is a racist"...

Morales... isn't that a Hispanic name? Strange kind of racism here. Could it be that she's simply correct in her assertions? That maybe it's Americans protecting their property, who get their burgers spit into by the Mexican nationals who are working at the burger joint?
5 posted on 12/05/2003 9:05:20 AM PST by jim35
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To: Wonder Warthog
Unadulterated hogwash wouldn't you say?
6 posted on 12/05/2003 9:08:26 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
She is a racist. "I don't let Mexicans serve me at Burger King," she says. "Unless I'm getting chicken nuggets, which are already made up. Otherwise, they spit in your food."

Mexican is not a race it is a nationality. And it sounds as if Morales attitudes may be a little tainted by the ordeal she has to live with as a result of these roving bands of savage nomads. The fact that she dislikes them is her prerogative. The fact that she does not trust them seems based on experience. And the fact that she does not want to solicit their services seems born of a desire to not support the illegal status of their existence here, which is admirable.

Hatred and violence is certainly not advocated. But, when the government fails to act to protect the lives property and sovereignty of its citizens, it is moral for them to act on their own behalf.


7 posted on 12/05/2003 9:09:38 AM PST by Mr.Atos
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A vigilante is a person who engages in a judicial process and executes the decisions taken from that judicial process --- in other words, after arrest, they proceed where the matter is actually required by law to be processed in the common law courts of a community or state within the United States.

The story above, is not about any vigilante, at all.

The story above, is about American citizens exercising both their individual police powers, which we have as sovereign people, to effect an arrest under our laws.

Any able-bodied citizen in reasonably good physical and mental health, is so-authorized under our common laws, to affect the arrest of a person or persons intent on, or having already, broken the criminal statutes.

A young man on some campus, this very evening, will probably intervene on behalf of some young woman who is being acosted, or worse, raped.

That young man is affecting an arrest, should he choose to restrain and hold the assailant to be bound over to the appropriate officer(s) of the law, whom we commonly refer to as police officers.

In the movies, and in some stories, the public eye is treated very often to the hysterical desires of leftists (such media producers) to promulgate fear among the populace, and redefine such noble actions, which are part of our lawful duties as American citizens, to be anything other than ... because "the political left" desires the people to be entirely subject to the state.

Fine, if you desire subjigation, go live in Australia where the people have submitted to the rule of the state over their lives. Or try Canada. Perhaps Great Britain. Or any other of the nations which have lived with the knowledge that, when the the people there get lazy and want somebody else to fight for their liberty ... they come to U.S.

8 posted on 12/05/2003 9:11:24 AM PST by First_Salute
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To: jim35
Strange kind of racism here.

Very strange. Mexican is a nationality not a race.

9 posted on 12/05/2003 9:13:22 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Mr.Atos
Hatred and violence is certainly not advocated. But, when the government fails to act to protect the lives property and sovereignty of its citizens, it is moral for them to act on their own behalf.

And when a Government will not protect it's own people, it abrogates it's right to govern. However, nowadays it seems that is the norm. A whole lot of people are redefining government in their own image behind the scenes it seems.

10 posted on 12/05/2003 9:13:37 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Sydney Morning Herald is a heavy left rag. The article contains many howlers, the usual intentional misuse of the term "assault rifle", etc. But the worst distortion is its failure to mention that the Douglas/Agua Prieta area is a major conduit for drugs and illegals of the sand goblin persuasion. Given the writer's dripping condescension toward the Real Americans whose rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness have been systematically trampled upon for forty years, perhaps she needs a little taste of what our neighbors to the south really think of sweet smelling gringas. Drop the bitch into the middle of Naco, in the middle of the night, with no car, no cash and no gun.
11 posted on 12/05/2003 9:15:56 AM PST by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: Mr.Atos
You beat me by four minutes. LOL Stupid Aussie! (the author that is) Bet there weren't any submachine guns there either.
12 posted on 12/05/2003 9:16:18 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sad and funny at the same time. However, they do have every right to defend their property.
13 posted on 12/05/2003 9:18:56 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: danneskjold
LOL - Ah.... for a little - in the headline.
14 posted on 12/05/2003 9:20:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: .cnI redruM
Mr. Foote is a true American Patriot.
15 posted on 12/05/2003 9:21:26 AM PST by ohioman
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To: .cnI redruM
Actually, I believe that that urban legend you speak of is based on fact.

Los Angeles dried up Owens Lake, and then began getting its water from Mono Lake, some 350 miles away. As this lake began to drain, their attention turned to two plans. One was Alaska, which could theoretically provide water to the continental West for a couple hundred years, or go into Arizona and divert the Colorado River. I think once LA saw the armed people just across the border in AZ, the idea was given up.
16 posted on 12/05/2003 9:22:55 AM PST by UCSC Republican (Guns don't kill people. Abortion clinics kill people.)
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To: ohioman
I agree, but he's nuts to EVER trust a news "reporter".
17 posted on 12/05/2003 9:45:10 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: jim35
"Morales... isn't that a Hispanic name? Strange kind of racism here."

Yes, I caught that one too.

18 posted on 12/05/2003 9:46:42 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: TigersEye
"Unadulterated hogwash wouldn't you say?"

Indeed!!! LOL!!!

19 posted on 12/05/2003 9:47:19 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
... side-arms powerful enough to blow a person's brains out.

What good is one that isn't?

His web site says: "News media [are] a group of pathological liars and socialist tools. Propaganda and indoctrination are their objectives. Please keep this in mind when reading any of their drivel."

There's little doubt that is true. This article is further proof. Propaganda and drivel.

But before we can meet he outlines some conditions. "When you get to Douglas [a town of 15,000 people in Arizona that backs up to the Mexican border] you check into a hotel, and you ring me," he says. "Then I'll give you directions to our location. When you get to the main cattle gate, you open it. But don't get out until you're sure the dogs are in the house. Just stay in your car and honk, and I'll send somebody out to get you."

Aussie's talk funny. In America we call that 'directions' not 'conditions.' Out west you don't find a ranch without 'em. I bet nasty ranch dogs are common Down Under too.

... water is dispensed from an urn (although why this should be so is unclear, since the house has taps).

A lot of yuppie journalists pay $2 bucks a glass for bottled water. Why is unclear since almost all restaurants have taps.

I could have blown a hole through his (the dog owner's) chest from where I was standing.

Why the heck would she want to do that? Bad childhood experience with a dog owner? Maybe that's how they measure distance in Sydney.

Maybe Morales is exaggerating, ...

And maybe not. Plenty of reports confirm the frequency of such occurrences.

A French photojournalist, Eric Boye, backs Foote's story, saying: "I know exactly what happened. I was a witness. No one hit them. There was firmness but no brutality or violence."

Easy enough to dismiss this testimony. Not because he's French; because he's just a photog not a 'real' journalist like this author lying socialist hag.

Like many of the new Border Patrol recruits, Cleveland is a southern Baptist, who served his country in the military and was raised on the border. He has been trained to use his voice, his uniform, his very presence to get control of the groups of Mexicans he finds scuttling through the desert. "You rarely have to draw a gun," he says. ... " We do get trouble. Sometimes they throw rocks."

So even trained, uniformed, armed (and probably not usually alone) BP agents get attacked. Must be why private citizens are training, arming (always have been actually), grouping together and establishing a presence. 200 hundred starving, desperate, criminals crossing one persons property every night. SOUNDS DANGEROUS TO ME!

If it weren't for newspapers willing to print tripe like this this woman would be unemployed. She couldn't hold a job at Burger King having to compete with an illiterate Mexican who doesn't speak English.

20 posted on 12/05/2003 9:58:48 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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