Cruel Joke or Medical Anomaly?

UM List ^ | Tim Wilkins

[Paul C. Jesup]

Well, it all depends on how the arrogance is displayed and acted upon. Actually, even then, same sex sodomy trumps arrogance as a character defect.

I don't know what you are on, but arrogance has lead to more human suffering throughout human history than anything else. Tell that to the victims of Julius Caesar, Nero, Caligula, Napoleon, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, the Clintons; yes some of these people had homosexual leanings, but most of them didn't.

[little jeremiah]

You still didn't anwer my two questions. Arrogance when acted on to an extreme degree leads to other evils such as the evils indulged in by the people on your list. Additionally, most of them had other character defects besides plain arrogance which contributed to their evil acts.

Everyone in the world (just about) has some degree of arrogance. Still can't be compared to an act. It's a state of mind.

In case you forgot, here's the two questions I asked which you haven't answered yet:

And what is your definition of "help"?

1. You must know that scripter's links to help for homosexuals means help to overcome or heal their same sex desires. Why do you pretend that you don't know what help for homosexuals means?

2. Why don't you state your position on homosexuality? Do you consider same sex acts morally neutral, healthy and good, immoral, unhealthy, or what? Or are you confused and trying to figure it out? Where on the spectrum do you stand? If you aren't honest, then there's no point in trying to have an honest conversation or debate about it.

[Paul C. Jesup]

You seem to forget that I did not ask the first question. So you shouldn't have butted in.

[Paul C. Jesup]

You seem to forget that I did not ask YOU the first question. So you shouldn't have butted in.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Everyone in the world (just about) has some degree of arrogance. Still can't be compared to an act. It's a state of mind.

That is pure BS, surely you know about modesty.

[scripter]

And what is your definition of "help"?

Farewell for now.

[scripter]

Time wasters and game players are coming out of the woodwork of late...

[xzins]

I think it's sort of like ones dietary choices.

In Korea nearly everyone ate dog. They liked it. But they had learned that dog was perfectly acceptable food. It was a means of relieving hunger that they accepted in their pantheon of food choices.

The same with homosexuality. At some point, every homosexual had a first homosexual experience. Like with eating dog, that was an introduction to a particular means of relieving their sexual urges. Since it worked once and brought about the desire result, they are then more likely to repeat that behavior in subsequent instances when they wish to relieve themselves sexually.

[little jeremiah]

The orderlies are coming for you now, it's medication time and then beddy-bye!

[little jeremiah]

When people can't carry on a debate followind some basic rules, it is definitely a waste of time to participate in their hallucinations!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[scripter]

I noticed this particular clown may have finally realized his error with my post 279 because he never responded to it. Maybe more prevalent and less prevalent and a little logic finally sunk in. When xzins made the point this clown said to butt out. Should have seen the clown for what he was at that time. Time wasters and game players indeed.

[scripter]

I just realized something. This clown that keeps telling folks to butt out butted in himself with Rev 911 in post 9. While it's perfectly fine to butt in on this forum, it's rather inconsistent to tell others to butt out when you're butting in.

[little jeremiah]

If someone is discussing on a thread and tells someone to butt out, they should be Freepmailing instead. This thread is a party line!

[Paul C. Jesup]

When people can't carry on a debate followind some basic rules, it is definitely a waste of time to participate in their hallucinations!

This from someone who thinks that homosexuality is worse than pride, the deadliest of the seven mortal sins.

[Paul C. Jesup]

And you consider someone asking you questions to be to extreme.

[little jeremiah]

Pride is the source of homosexual acts. Why? Because same sex acts are forbidden in the OT, the NT, the Koran, and the Vedas, they are unhealthy, unnatural and destructive. So somone who wants to rebel against nature and nature's God is acting out of pride.

BTW you didn't answer my questions, so goodbye and good luck!

[Paul C. Jesup]

Pride is the source of homosexual acts. Why? Because same sex acts are forbidden in the OT, the NT, the Koran, and the Vedas, they are unhealthy, unnatural and destructive. So somone who wants to rebel against nature and nature's God is acting out of pride.

No, not pride. You are think of lust, but lust not so much the act of sex or making love, but the overindulgence of it.

[Paul C. Jesup]

think=thinking

[little jeremiah]

Pride leads to rebelliousness which leads to illicit acts, including same sex acts.

Hey - how about answering my two questions? Here they are again:

1. You must know that scripter's links to help for homosexuals means help to overcome or heal their same sex desires. Why do you pretend that you don't know what help for homosexuals means?

2. Why don't you state your position on homosexuality? Do you consider same sex acts morally neutral, healthy and good, immoral, unhealthy, or what? Or are you confused and trying to figure it out? Where on the spectrum do you stand? If you aren't honest, then there's no point in trying to have an honest conversation or debate about it.


(This is my last attempt to have a rational debate with you. If you can't/won't answer these questions, I will assume that you are either a homosexual apologist or out of your mind (oh yeah, they're one and the same thing).