Cruel Joke or Medical Anomaly?

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[scripter]

I forgot something here:

I don't want to start a 'parsing words' arguement here, it is to 'Clinton' for my taste.

Then don't even give a hint of that by putting words in the mouths of doctors.

[scripter]

Did you read the article last week about the guy who called himself a "lesbian" trapped in a male body? Humorous piece.

No - I missed that one. There have been too many lately that I can't even take the time to read some, so I do what I can. If you have a link please pass it alone.

[scripter]

I read some of these comments and wonder if I'm in another world.

Well, you're in it, but not of it. :-)

[Paul C. Jesup]

Then don't even give a hint of that by putting words in the mouths of doctors.

I didn't, I took more from reading the last part of the sentence, while you took more reading the first part. One could consider that sentence to be and oxymoron.

[Paul C. Jesup]

I'll remember that.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Okay, what is your opinion of the Dead Sea Scolls.

[Paul C. Jesup]

(Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)

Are you going to provide names, or do we have to take your word for it.

[Paul C. Jesup]

It appears you're thinking the recent articles I referenced go back to the beginning of homosexuality. Sheesh, you're either reading something that isn't there or you're not reading what is. It's obvious you're not really reading or probably not even clicking any of the links I'm providing. Just click here and read and read and read.

Are you saying that there was not homosexuality during the time of Ancient Greece.

If so, I guess I am going to have to dig out my history books to refute you.

[little jeremiah]

Are you saying that there was not homosexuality during the time of Ancient Greece.

A. Just so as not to embarrass yourself any further, it might benefit you to click on scripter's links and read, so that you come to the debate armed with facts. It would make it more fun for everyone.

B. Alexander the Great was a homosexual, in fact, a pederast (as were most Greek homosexuals) and among his other exploits, kept a "stable" of castrated youths for his pleasure. Does this make you happy? Should we follow his example?

[Paul C. Jesup]

Alexander the Great was a homosexual, in fact, a pederast (as were most Greek homosexuals) and among his other exploits, kept a "stable" of castrated youths for his pleasure. Does this make you happy? Should we follow his example?

No. Does it make you happy?

Of course we most remember that Alexander was one of the most ambitious men in history when it came to warfare. He was probably not that pleasant a person. He was unique, by every standard, meaning he could never be considered the norm.

[little jeremiah]

No, it makes me sad that he caused such suffering to others. In certain times in ancient Greece, parents had to have servants or slaves accompany their sons to school, so that pederasts would not accost the children. That was common enough to be a problem.

Another interesting fact is that many Nazis were homosexual, and oddly enough, very militaristic and sadistic. In Chinese Taoism it is accepted that men having sex with each other causes psychological disturbances up to psychosis, including violence and rage. There is a connection between same sex acts and emotional and mental distrubances.

[Paul C. Jesup]

No, it makes me sad that he caused such suffering to others. In certain times in ancient Greece, parents had to have servants or slaves accompany their sons to school, so that pederasts would not accost the children. That was common enough to be a problem.

Don't be to sad, without the actions in war that Alexander took, the modern world, or even for the matter the world Jesus lived in 2000 years would not exist.

[little jeremiah]

No, I consider that the world would be a better place had old Alex not graced it with his presence. He was a vicious, evil sadistic pedophile.

[Paul C. Jesup]

No, I consider that the world would be a better place had old Alex not graced it with his presence. He was a vicious, evil sadistic pedophile.

Without Alexander, there is no telling how long the humanity would have remained for the most part in a city-state evironment. By conquering some many place, Alexander brought them to gather in trade and culture.

Alexander wrote the book on taking over the world.

By the way, what is your opinion of Leonard Da Vinci?

[Paul C. Jesup]

No, I consider that the world would be a better place had old Alex not graced it with his presence. He was a vicious, evil sadistic pedophile.

Without Alexander, there is no telling how long that humanity would have remained for the most part in a city-state evironment. By conquering some many places, Alexander brought them to gather in trade and culture.

Alexander wrote the book on taking over the world.

By the way, what is your opinion of Leonard Da Vinci?

[Revelation 911]

You never read the Old Testament have you.........Now on the other hand (in the New Testament) Jesus, not God, is really nice person, but God is another story.

Likewise, you missed the NT class LOL - How can a God who offers His only Son as a sinless sacrifice for the sin of mankind to afford us an opportunity at a closer relationship with Him considered anything but loving.

Im not surprised though, tough love at times is hard to understand for todays "dont spank the naughty kid" crowd.

Job 1:20 At this, Job got up and tore his robe and shaved his head. Then he fell to the ground in worship 21 and said: "Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked I will depart. The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; may the name of the LORD be praised." 22 In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing.

You however have - your faith is weak

It begs the question - what did God do to upset you so ?

[Revelation 911]

Robbie S.:The story of the Bible is that of a progressive revelation of God, culminiating in his incarnation in Jesus.

PCJ: The NT yes. The OT no. The OT is a story unto itself.

hmmm looks like you havent read that either - you guys nevermind all that prophecy stuff in the OT LOL

Rev rolling his eyes at the absurdity

[Amelia]

A belief in theism isn't required to enable a thinking man to come to the conclusion that homosexuality is a willing perversion of the physiologically heterosexual (binary) nature of humankind. Simple common sense is more than sufficient.

I'd bet that you don't know any homosexuals personally.

I don't think homosexuality is right, and it certainly doesn't make biological or evolutionary sense (which is probably why all the major religions of the world oppose it), but I tend not to believe that most homosexuals choose to be that way.

They might possibly in some urban areas like San Francisco, but here in the Bible belt where it is considered perverted and disgusting, not sophisticated or chic? Why would anyone purposely choose homosexuality here?

[xzins]

Good. It's true.

It's basically a free speech zone with the exceptions that FR has itself listed: Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.

I wasn't especially thrilled with adam taking the thread in the direction of an atheism discussion, but it happened, and it's what free speech looks like.

[RobbyS]

My "opinion" is pretty much what I have read, which is that they were the work of the Essenes and tell us a lot about a sect about which we used to know little.