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Florida State Attorney Persecuting Rush Limbaugh is Democrat--Liberal Media Not Telling.
JosephCamhi

Posted on 12/05/2003 1:42:39 AM PST by j.cam

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To: dyno35
I personally think seat belt laws are stupid, un-Constitutional and a waste of taxpayer money. Doesn't make me any less guilty - or susceptible to the penalty - when I don't wear one. And it would be hypocritical of me to chew someone out for not wearing his seat belt when I don't wear one myself.
41 posted on 12/05/2003 6:30:06 AM PST by Cacophonous (Thought and innovation are disturbances of regularity and...tolerated only for...readaptations...)
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To: Cacophonous
"Some of the allegations, however, involved bribery, blackmail, threats and/or extortion."

Where have you heard this. I haven't heard this. Can you cite a credible source?

42 posted on 12/05/2003 6:30:26 AM PST by j.cam
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To: Big Midget
My guess is that they'll cut Rush an appropriate deal -- a handslap at most. And I'm sure there'll be no prosecution at all if he helps convict those in the supply chain above him.

You're kidding, of course?

This has nothing to do with wrapping up a "drug investigation". It has everything to do with wrapping up Rush.

DAs in South Florida can get take down a score of drug dealers every day. But it's not every day a partisan Democrat DA can become a hero and icon to millions by taking down the biggest Truth Dealer in the country and doing a huge service to his Party.

"Drugs" is the excuse. "Destruction" is the purpose!

43 posted on 12/05/2003 6:30:27 AM PST by Gritty ("Giving leaders enough power to create "social justice" gives them power to destroy all-Tom Sowell)
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To: cpst12
>> ...It remains to be seen if the prosecutor will be enough to garner enough evidence to actually charge Rush. If he gets charged, you can be there is a lot of bad stuff coming out; I doubt very much any prosecutor would take on such a high profile case against a man with enormous resources to defend himself unless the he felt there was a decent chance of a guilty finding. Politics aside, no prosecutor wants to bring, and then loose, a high profile case. <<

If the motivation is political, then the ultimate outcome is not significant. The scandal during the life of the case is the main objective. Rush simply buying the drugs illegally would not be enough. It would be too obvious and actually make Rush stronger politically. The goal of the prosecutor is to find some evidence that Rush falsified a document to obtain drugs. This will establish the basis for prosecution without screaming political persecution. Even in that event, Rush's attorney is too good for Rush to ever serve time. The goal is to disable Rush politically during the run up to the election. Look at the life of the typical investigation and court case, 9 to 12 months, and compare that to the election cycle. Whether Rush is guilty or not, it would make his legal case the spotlight issue during a critical time period.
44 posted on 12/05/2003 6:33:10 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: ShandaLear
Actually closer to one every two hours. (6 mos x 30 days x 24 hours = 4320 hours).

Still not an exorbitant amount

45 posted on 12/05/2003 6:34:11 AM PST by Cacophonous (Thought and innovation are disturbances of regularity and...tolerated only for...readaptations...)
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To: GulliverSwift
Agree. Much of the stuff that would unite us is posted in the middle of the night or very early morning like this story. The junk gets posted during prime time.

Nice research. Maybe you should have posted it later in the day when everyone else can see it.

46 posted on 12/05/2003 6:34:19 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: Gritty
The witch hunt is now under way.
47 posted on 12/05/2003 6:36:23 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Cacophonous
The one quote they found of Rush "chewing" anyone out for drug abuse was from 1995 before Rush was addicted, and he was obviously talking about recreational drug users, not people who become addicted through no fault of their own when being treated medically for pain.

According to Dershowitz, not only Rush, but law enforcement makes a distinction.

It seems only now with Rush's situation have liberals become unable to understand the distinction. Now that is hypocrisy.

48 posted on 12/05/2003 6:37:58 AM PST by j.cam
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To: GOPJ
Hey, perhaps you can give it a bump during prime time. ;-)
49 posted on 12/05/2003 6:39:30 AM PST by j.cam
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To: j.cam
The stories said he payed off the housekeeper. That's bribery at the least. He also became paranoid and asked her to destroy the computer that contained the e-mails. A vindictive prosecutor could try to make that into a case of extortion. It probably wouldn't fly, but it would cause trouble.
50 posted on 12/05/2003 6:39:44 AM PST by Cacophonous (Thought and innovation are disturbances of regularity and...tolerated only for...readaptations...)
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To: j.cam
Hey, I'm not arguing the point. Liberals are the biggest liars and hypocrites on the planet, and that is one of the more charming aspects of their personalities. It's also what drives people to the conservative camp. But we conservatives then have to bend over backwards to ensure that we are not guilty of the same thing.
51 posted on 12/05/2003 6:43:26 AM PST by Cacophonous (Thought and innovation are disturbances of regularity and...tolerated only for...readaptations...)
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To: j.cam
I've read fifty posts on this so far and none has cited any specific crime....

"Illegally signed documents" ... ? are the little (sarcasm) history forms every doctor in the world makes you file considered to be LEGAL documents? I don't remember raising my right hand.

Are we tallking around some generalized fraud merely due to use of multiple legitimate sources in order to buy too many legitimate pain killers? If that is not a victimless crime there is no such thing, Rush is the only one to suffer. And, if it is a crime at all the logical recourse is treatment, which is in the past. I expect he'd volunteer for periodic drug tests as a matter of pride.

At some point there were rumors of 'bribing' his housekeeper, OK, unless he caused her to actually and knowlingly break a law that does not seem to rise to criminality. IF he threatened her, that's a different crime.

So far all I've seen are records confiscation and searches at clinics etc. I'd bet the only thing we see (a lot of) will be "investigators want to know...", "authorities believe...." and other innuendo. Meanwhile, a whole lot of unreported bales of drugs will continue to flow in through Florida unmolested.

Rant over, serious question; can anyone cite actual law that is being enforced here? An actual crime, felony or misdemeanor, frequency of enforcement, etc???


52 posted on 12/05/2003 7:01:15 AM PST by norton
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To: j.cam
I'll try.

Hey, perhaps you can give it a bump during prime time. ;-)

53 posted on 12/05/2003 7:01:34 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: Cacophonous
You say: “The stories said he payed off the housekeeper. That's bribery at the least.”

No. That is not bribery. That makes her an accomplice. Look up the word "bribery." According to you, hit men are victims of bribery because people pay them to kill people. Drug dealers too. In fact, any hired criminal is a victim of bribery. “Bribery”??? Are doctors who write fake prescriptions because people pay them victims of bribery? Are you a liberal shill?

You say, “He also became paranoid and asked her to destroy the computer that contained the e-mails. A vindictive prosecutor could try to make that into a case of extortion."

How? There is no extortion there. Look up the word “extortion.” And I'd hardly call it paranoid to destroy computers with that kind of information on it (if your story is true). Look up the word "paranoid."

You say, “It probably wouldn't fly, but it would cause trouble.”

So now you are saying that no one made those allegations yet, but someone might wrongly make them. LOL. Why, then, did you say: "Some of the allegations, however, involved bribery, blackmail, threats and/or extortion." ?

And what about your claim that there are allegations of threats and blackmail? Did you make that up too, or did some poster on a liberal site you frequent make that charge?

54 posted on 12/05/2003 7:10:08 AM PST by j.cam
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To: Cacophonous
I bend over for no one.
55 posted on 12/05/2003 7:14:41 AM PST by j.cam
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To: norton
So far all I've seen are records confiscation and searches at clinics etc. I'd bet the only thing we see (a lot of) will be "investigators want to know...", "authorities believe...." and other innuendo. Meanwhile, a whole lot of unreported bales of drugs will continue to flow in through Florida unmolested.

Also expect stories such as Rush once had ____(insert your favorite STD). Or maybe Rush had himself tested for HIV! Probably not true but the tabloids will claim that they are found in the medical files.

56 posted on 12/05/2003 7:23:23 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: AAABEST
Its funny how most of these ultra liberal wenches are scags.
57 posted on 12/05/2003 7:23:29 AM PST by DarthVader (I hate all liberal Democrats with a perfect hatred (especially Hillary))
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To: j.cam
Rush is guilty of abusing drugs, he admits it. Should Rush get better treatment than Gov. Bush's daughter ?
58 posted on 12/05/2003 7:23:50 AM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: j.cam
I was mistaken to try and reason with you. Your blinders make you unable to see your own hypocrisy. And if you are willing to live with it, that's your call.

As far as the bribery, the housekeeper said that Rush gave her $120,000 in hush money:

She claimed that a lawyer for Limbaugh gave her a payoff - $80,000 he owed her, plus another $120,000 - and asked her to destroy the computer that contained the E-mail records.

Here is the link (it's from a NY Daily News story):

http://www.nydailynews.com/10-02-2003/front/story/122839p-110349c.html

Is the housekeeper credible? Don't know, but it is clearly an allegation of bribery. And yes, if true, it makes her an accomplice. And if true, it doesn't make Rush any less of one.

I may be misreading "payoff" for "payola"; to me, overpaying on a transaction such as that amount to the same thing. I was mistaken on the threats and extortion.

Let me reiterate: I think Rush has been through the wringer enough; I don't think he committed any crimes, but I don't know all of the accusations and all of the details and neither do you.

But IF he is guilty, we Conservatives have to insist he pay the price. Just as we would insist on a Kennedy or on you or me paying the price.

59 posted on 12/05/2003 7:27:56 AM PST by Cacophonous (Thought and innovation are disturbances of regularity and...tolerated only for...readaptations...)
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To: j.cam
Your premise the law is not applied to anyone else is flawed

Jeb Bush's daughter charged with prescription fraud

By Deborah Sharp, USA TODAY

The daughter of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush was arrested Tuesday in Tallahassee on charges of trying to fill a fake prescription for the popular tranquilizer Xanax.

Bush and his wife, Columba, issued a statement that they were "deeply saddened" by the incident involving their middle child and only daughter, Noelle, 24.

They asked the media and the public to respect their privacy "during this difficult time so that we can help our daughter."

A Walgreens pharmacist suspicious about a call-in prescription notified police at 1:15 a.m. when Noelle Bush showed up at the drugstore's drive-through in her white Volkswagen to pick it up.

She was charged with prescription fraud, a felony that carries a maximum penalty of five years in jail and a $5,000 fine. Noelle Bush has no known criminal record and was released without having to post bond.

Experts say punishment for a first offense is usually drug treatment or probation.

Noelle Bush has been cited for about a dozen traffic violations and was involved in three automobile crashes since 1995, according to The Associated Press.

Xanax is legally prescribed for stress and anxiety. Noelle Bush reportedly told police that she was panicked about starting a new job on Tuesday.

Jeb Bush had said previously that one of his three children used illegal drugs during his first failed campaign for Florida governor in 1994. That episode prompted Jeb and Columba Bush to get involved in several drug-prevention groups, and Jeb Bush appointed a state drug czar after he was elected governor in 1998.

Police believe Noelle Bush called the pharmacy's voice mail system to issue herself the prescription, posing as a "Dr. Noelle Scidmore."

Police impounded the phone messages. The pharmacist told police that Bush called twice as Scidmore and twice as herself asking if the prescription was ready. The calls initially made him suspicious because the first call from "Scidmore" failed to specify the quantity of pills. The pharmacist called a colleague of the real Dr. Scidmore, who told him the doctor no longer practiced in Tallahassee. He "said it was a fake and to bust her," pharmacist Carlos Zimmerman told police.

In addition, the telephone number originally left as a call-back number turned out to be a second line at Noelle Bush's home, according to the police report.

She lives in Tallahassee, where she attended Florida State University last year but is not currently enrolled. She studied art and graduated from Tallahassee Community College in 2000.

The arrest echoed similar high-profile family struggles, from the recent marijuana abuse by England's Prince Harry to underage drinking by President Bush's twin daughters. In May, Jenna Bush was charged with using a fake ID to try to buy a margarita, and her sister Barbara was charged with underage drinking.

The twins performed community service, attended alcohol-awareness classes and paid $100 fines. The charges were dropped. A second drinking episode for Jenna Bush brought a $500 fine and a license suspension.

Illegal use of the sedative Xanax is popular among some young people, particularly in combination with the party drug Ecstasy. It can help prolong an Ecstasy high or soften the crash that often follows. The practice is known as "parachuting" among users, says Joe Kilmer, spokesman for the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration in Miami.

"I wouldn't say it's a 'hot drug,' but it is a drug we see with some regularity on the club scene," Kilmer says.

A survey by the federal Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration found illicit use of Xanax-like drugs is more popular among young people than other groups: Only 2% of the general population reported misusing such prescription drugs, but 4% of those ages 18-25 did.

60 posted on 12/05/2003 7:29:18 AM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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