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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates)
Various | December 4, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 12/04/2003 3:31:09 PM PST by sweetliberty

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To: Orlando
I wish I were registered in Florida to help get out the vote!
141 posted on 12/11/2003 12:18:15 PM PST by a5478 (a5478)
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To: sweetliberty
Update: More papers filed today in Pinellas County Court, Schiavo v. Bush

Uniform Case Pinellas Case Section Case Type Type
522003CA008212XXCICI 03008212CI 020 DECLARATORY CI
Style:  SCHIAVO MICHAEL
vs.  BUSH JEB
Jury Trial STIP NOTH Reason Type Disp.
    Y    
Filling Date Appeal Date Judg. Date Reop Date Docket Date
10/21/03 11/14/03      
Case/Cat
DECLARATORY JUDGMENT

 

10 Docket Entries, 12/11/03 to 12/08/03
Pages Date P/D Docket Entry Ver
  12/11/03 DEFENDANT BY JEB BUSH F
  12/11/03 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF SERVICE OF 2ND INTERROGATORIES TO PLTF N
  12/11/03 DEFENDANT BY JEB BUSH F
  12/11/03 DEFENDANT REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS TO PLTF N
  12/11/03 PLAINTIFF REPLY TO AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES/DEMAND FOR JURY TRIAL OF JEB BUSH F
  12/11/03 PLAINTIFF OF CORTMAN WEBER HENDERSON AND SEKULOW F
  12/11/03 PLAINTIFF DCA ORDER: GRANTING ADMISSION PRO HAC VICE N
  12/10/03 DEFENDANT IN OPPOSITION TO MOTION SUMMARY JUDGMENT F
  12/10/03 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF FILING EXHIBITS TO DEPO OF WILLIAM CAMPBELL WALKER MD N
  12/08/03 DEFENDANT PROBATE CASE 90-2908GD-003 F
NOTH  Notice of Hearing
STIP  Stipulation
Ver Verified: F=Filed, N=Not Filed/Notice. There is no
case file document associated with a notice.

142 posted on 12/11/2003 7:03:33 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
Felos has requested of the court that an attorney, from outside of the state of Florida, be able to enter his appearance in this case, as yet another attorney acting on behalf of HINO. In this case, Felos is asking that the attorneys of this Virginia lawfirm be allowed to practice law in Florida:

JAY A. SEKULOW, WALTER M. WEBER DAVID A. CORTMAN, JAMES M. HENDERSON
American Center for Law and Justice 1650 Diagonal Road American Center for Law 5th Floor Alexandria, VA 22314 205 3rd Steet, S.E.
To explain pro hac vice rules for Florida, see this:

Florida Pro Hac Vice Rules
Florida Judicial Administration Rule 2.061 provides as follows:

RULE 2.061 FOREIGN ATTORNEYS (a) Eligibility. Upon filing a verified motion with the court showing that the attorney is an active member in good standing of the bar of another state, such an attorney may be permitted to appear in particular cases in a Florida court upon such conditions as the court may deem appropriate, provided that a member of The Florida Bar in good standing is associated as an attorney of record....

143 posted on 12/11/2003 7:12:48 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
I'm confused. Aren't the lawyers you just listed,

JAY A. SEKULOW, WALTER M. WEBER DAVID A. CORTMAN, JAMES M. HENDERSON
American Center for Law and Justice 1650 Diagonal Road American Center for Law 5th Floor Alexandria, VA 22314 205 3rd Steet, S.E.

Aren't they with the American Center for Law and Justice? I thought they were representing Terri's parents in the matter to determine whether Terri's law is constitutional.
144 posted on 12/11/2003 7:24:28 PM PST by wisconsinconservative ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: wisconsinconservative; KDubRN
Well, all I can say is that it's on the "plaintiff's" entry.....I may be incorrect in my assumptions, but that is what it appears to state.....perhaps someone can clear this up????
145 posted on 12/11/2003 7:32:40 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: KDubRN; wisconsinconservative
please see my post numbers 142 and 143, as pertains to the attorneys cited....would you be able to find out what exactly is going on with these attorneys appearing (apparently) before the court? It seems to me that it is the plaintiff (HINO) who must have filed a motion to allow them to appear??? Thanks if you can help out on this question.
146 posted on 12/11/2003 7:35:02 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Gordon Watts sues Pinellas Park Police Dept. over Terri Schindler Schiavo matter:

From: Gww1210@aol.com
Date: 11 Dec 05:56 (PST)
To: BMcCabe@co.Pinellas.Fl.us
Cc: BernieMcCabe@fdle.state.fl.us, pc93@Enlightenment-Engine.Net, GordonWWatts@aol.com, Gww12102002@Yahoo.com, Inspector.General@usdoj.Gov
Subject: State Atty Bernie McCabe: correction

Mr. McCabe:

I apologize, but, in my lawsuit, referenced below, I omit any mention of Florida Statutes: (emphasis added) -let me make a correction:
744.3215 Rights of persons determined incapacitated: (i) To receive necessary services and rehabilitation. [comments: the courts have violated this, but this is probably a judicial matter outside your purview]
415.104: (1) The department SHALL, upon receipt of a report alleging abuse, neglect, or exploitation of a vulnerable adult, begin within 24 hours a protective investigation [comments: This matter is within your purview -obligation for its fulfillment rests on your shoulders]

Also, these observations may be useful to you in fulfilling your responsibility: Your lack of action so far, Mr. McCabe, has resulted in two ongoing misconceptions by the general public:
MYTH #1: What happened to Terri Schiavo (for whom I'm filing a "next friend" lawsuit) is legal.
MYTH #2: The Courts ordered this.
FACT #1: Removal of feeding tubes was marginally legal (assuming a correct finding of fact that Schiavo would want so, but that is disputed.) -But, removal of "regular" food and water is, as we point out in our four (4) lawsuits in three courts, referenced below, a violation of mercy killing/euthanasia and assisted suicide laws, and possibly attempted felony murder. (Fla. Stats. 765.309 (1), as defined by 765.101; 782.08; 782.051).
FACT #2: The courts, to my knowledge, have wisely not ordered the withholding of "regular" food and water.

FACT #3: Some members of Pinellas Park City Dept have apparently visited the web site below (we've tracked visitors) and seen the online-posted court briefs, but you should verify these claims by obtaining official court records. That is good, because, if they are to act, they must understand the proper solution to the ongoing problems posed by this dilemma.

Attorney McCabe, I can sympathize with you in your plight of this high-profile case, but your obligation is quite clear, no different than any other case, in which someone is attempting a mercy-killing (such as the Fla. rock band "Hell on Earth" or the well-known Dr. Jack Kevorkian -or, even in which they attempt to enact a mercy-killing of a child or elderly parent).

Lastly, I would like to apologize for not "getting my act together" and sending you these materials, all at one to both your known emails, but it was an oversight on my part. While many other issues are important, this should cover the major weak areas that need attention, now.

Gordon W. Watts

Subj: Mr. McCabe: Our Pinellas Pk Police Dept Lawsuit - DATE: Tuesday, 09 December 200
Date: 12/11/03 7:53:30 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: Gww1210
To: berniemccabe@fdle.state.fl.us

Pinellas Cty St Atty, Bernie McCabe -I didn't have your FDLE email address earlier, but here is your Cc. -regards gw

To: City of Pinellas Park Police Department: (Subj: Our Pinellas Pk Police Dept Lawsuit - DATE: Tuesday, 09 December 2003)
Cc: (Pinellas Cty St Atty, Bernie McCabe; City Manager: Michael Gustafson; Mayor: Bill Mischler; Councilman: Ed Taylor, III; Councilman: Rick Butler; Vice-Mayor:Sandra Bradbury; Councilwoman: Patricia Bailey-Snook; Executive Director Of Investigations Jamie McLaughlin, FDLE; Director of FDLE Commissioner Guy Tunnell; Everett Rice, Pinellas County Sheriff; Fla Atty Gen Charlie Crist; Gov Jeb Bush; Lt Gov Toni Jennings; File copies; Copies to Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation, Spokespersons, Megan Dillon and Pamela Hennessy)

Seasons Greetings to you at Pinellas Park Police Department:

I am sad to inform you, but it is my duty: On behalf of enforcing current Florida law, including, but not limited to chapter 765.309 and 782.051, I, as a Florida citizen, am compelled to sue you, and am now doing so in three (3) different venues (courts). According to my records, Priseilla Hallas, of the City of Pinellas Park Police Department signed for my Certified mail on 12-4-2003, this past Thursday, the 4th, in which I served you your copies of the various lawsuits filed against your department. * Copies of the briefs, which I have filed, are available at the various courts (6th Circuit in Pinellas Cty,
2nd Appellate DCA, here in Lakeland, and Fla Supreme Court) -for a fee -and free copies are available online at: http://HomeTown.AOL.com/Gww1210 or http://www.GeoCities.com/Gordon_Watts32313

While I'm sure that you have heard a lot about the "Terri Schiavo case," and I'm sure that you're about tired of it, please let me underscore one important point: When other people are threatened with starvation, at the hands of their parents, children, or strangers, your department rushes in and arrests the perpetrator. Why should you treat Terri Schiavo any different? ** While I do not speak for the family in any capacity, official of otherwise, I note the a State Law was broken and your Dept refused to enforce it, which gives me legal standing to file a mandamus action, among other things -And, with all due respect to the many other hard-working and intelligent lawyers who've jumped into the fray, I'm the only one who's filed any petitions for Habeas or Quo Warranto. However, please understand that if "something happens to me," others, who have seen my pleadings -either online or have been served copies -will continue this legal challenge. (Please note also: While the sheriff’s dept technically has jurisdiction too, I am not suing to compel them to do their "ministerial duties," as they have "secondary" jurisdiction behind your dept. Should we amend our suits to include them?)

So, in conclusion, I would respectfully point out that, if you don't want to go through this, simply do your job: There is already enough evidence to arrest individuals for a violation of the statutes I cite above, and, when the band "Hell on Earth" attempted an on-stage mercy killing -and when Dr. Jack Kevorkian considered plying his trade here, your varied agencies quickly threatened to arrest and charge them with these crimes: The Courts only ordered a feeding tube removed -not "regular" food and water, and even had they done so, those who attempted a mercy killing (or possible homicide, if it is discovered Ms Schiavo did not want removal of her feeding tubes), would be chargeable. ** In fact, should some outsider come into Terri's room and attempt to deny her "regular" food and water, would they not get arrested? So, then, why not arrest and charge her estranged husband, Michael Schiavo and his co-workers, other nurses: "Are they above the law?" ~~~ "Are your officers above the law?"

SEASONS GREETINGS

Therefore, you are at liberty to do as you please, but if you want to ruin your holiday season -and spend a lot of tax dollar$, then let me drag you through the courts -I have nothing better to do. ** But, I would respectfully ask you that you would heed my words: I love every one of you, and don't want to see any harm come to you over the grief that my lawsuits would cause, and don't worry about the potential defendants, Michael Schiavo, et al.: They will be just fine under God's watchful eye. The Generalized Press Release dealing with this matter is posted online at: http://www.geocities.com/Gordon_Watts32313/SchiavoPressRelease.html or http://hometown.aol.com/Gww1210/myhomepage/SchiavoPressRelease.html Arrest, Charge, and Prosecute: Just, let's try to do our job and do these, alright? If so, then good, and if it doesn't work out, then we can go back to the way it was. Just make your best attempt, as all I ask.

PS: Please do not respond to this email address -I only use it for sending official email as it reflects my true name: Only Use the one posed on my press releases per above.

Regards,

Gordon Wayne Watts
Gordon W. Watts
821 Alicia Road
Lakeland, FL 33801-2113
147 posted on 12/11/2003 8:30:05 PM PST by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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To: nicmarlo
nic do you remember any of the doc names from the malpractice suit M won after Terri's accident? or where the info was found? It would help if I could locate those.
thanks
148 posted on 12/11/2003 8:32:11 PM PST by tutstar (Jesus is the reason for the season! <((--><)
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To: All
Wolfson report confirms Terri is not in a PVS

On page 31 of Wolfson's report, he states "Hours of observed video tape recordings of Theresa offer little objective insight about her awareness and interactive behaviors. There are instances where she appears to respond specifically to her mother. But these are not repetitive or consistent. There were instances during the GAL's visits, when responses seemed possible, but they were not consistent in any way."

According to FL law, if what he says is true, Terri's condition does not meet the legal definition of PVS. FL law does not require repetitive or consistent responses. It does not require that anyone prove she responds at all. It requires proof that she does not ever respond. According to Wolfson, she appears to respond and responses seemed possible. In other words, she does not meet the criteria for a determination of PVS according to FL law. He claims that she is PVS according to a different definition (a commonly accepted medical definition) but not the legal definition, which is the one that counts. If she is not legally PVS, it is a crime to remove her feeding tube.

149 posted on 12/12/2003 2:43:12 AM PST by BykrBayb (I'm going home, and I'm taking my ball with me.)
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To: tutstar
Yes; the names of the docs are on the Pinellas County Courthouse list of public info. of suits brought by Schiavo. Here's the link to the site: https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/civil/KEInput.jsp

Follow these steps:

1. Click the button "non-subscriber login"
2. Click it again on the next screen, bottom of the page
3. Click on "Civil/Small Claims Name/Case Lookup"
4. Type in "Schiavo" under "Lookup by Name"
5. The list of suits comes up. Go to the second page of suits, you'll see the doctors names:

a. NEUHARDT ROBERT G MD
b. PRAWER JOEL S M D

You'll also see this suit brought by him:

c. PRUDENTIAL INSURANCE COMPANY OF AMERICA
150 posted on 12/12/2003 4:35:47 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: pc93; sweetliberty; tutstar; KDubRN
FYI....this suit is also found under HINO's name on the Pinellas County Courthouse records site:

WATTS GORDON WAYNE vs. PINELLAS PARK CITY FLORIDA

Uniform Case Pinellas Case Section Case Type Type
522003AP005071XXXXCV 03005071AP 88A HABEAS CORPUS AP
Style:  WATTS GORDON WAYNE
vs.  PINELLAS PARK CITY FLORIDA
Jury Trial STIP NOTH Reason Type Disp.
         
Filling Date Appeal Date Judg. Date Reop Date Docket Date
12/02/03        
Case/Cat
WRITS - HABEAS CORPU

 

5 Docket Entries, 12/04/03 to 12/02/03
Pages Date P/D Docket Entry Ver
  12/04/03 PLAINTIFF PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI F
  12/02/03 PLAINTIFF MOTION FOR AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY F
  12/02/03 PLAINTIFF PETITION FOR WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS ETC (RECD BY CLERK 112403) F
  12/02/03 PLAINTIFF FAX PETITION FOR WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS ETC F
  12/02/03 PLAINTIFF THIS CASE ASSIGNED BY CLERK TO SECTION 88A BY 3552 - MANUAL APC N
NOTH  Notice of Hearing
STIP  Stipulation
Ver Verified: F=Filed, N=Not Filed/Notice. There is no
case file document associated with a notice.

151 posted on 12/12/2003 4:39:08 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
What is that about?
152 posted on 12/12/2003 6:01:50 AM PST by sweetliberty (Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: sweetliberty
post 147 has the rundown
153 posted on 12/12/2003 6:15:55 AM PST by tutstar (Jesus is the reason for the season! <((--><)
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To: pc93
I'll sure be interested to see how that turns out.
154 posted on 12/12/2003 6:31:50 AM PST by sweetliberty (Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: pc93; sweetliberty; tutstar; KDubRN; nicmarlo
It appears that Gordon W.Watts was involved in the 2000 Florida election fiasco.

Look here: http://www.flcourts.org/sct/clerk/briefs/2003/201-400/03-385_ini.pdf

and here: http://www.flcourts.org/pubinfo/election/OrdWatts.pdf

I'm not quite awake yet so I can't tell whcih side he was on. Can anyone figure these docs out?
155 posted on 12/12/2003 6:42:38 AM PST by wisconsinconservative ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: wisconsinconservative
It seems Gordon registered on FR today. His poster name is gww1210
156 posted on 12/12/2003 7:04:21 AM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: pickyourpoison
Anyone know who this guy is????
157 posted on 12/12/2003 7:10:33 AM PST by wisconsinconservative ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: Orlando
Is King up for nomination in 2004? He needs to be beaten in the Republican primary.
158 posted on 12/12/2003 11:14:50 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: All
Kudos to all the research. I sent a letter to Ellen Goodman regarding her op ed regurgitating previous op ed pieces.

I hope Gordon is legit and a valuable voice for Terri's situation.
159 posted on 12/12/2003 12:00:56 PM PST by a5478 (a5478)
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To: sweetliberty; tutstar; RusynMama
FYI, update on Schiavo v. Bush, documents filed today:

12/12/03 DEFENDANT--FAX AMENDED NOTICE OF HEARING 121503 @ 2:00
12/12/03 DEFENDANT--MOTION TO CONTINUE HEARING ON MOTION SUMMARY JDMT
12/12/03 DEFENDANT--FAX MOTION EXPEDITE DISCOVERY RESPONSES

160 posted on 12/12/2003 1:48:14 PM PST by nicmarlo
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