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Fossils Bridge Gap in African Mammal Evolution
Reuters to My Yahoo! ^ | Wed Dec 3, 2003 | Patricia Reaney

Posted on 12/03/2003 4:53:26 PM PST by Pharmboy

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To: Junior
HOW MANY HOMINID SKULLS have been discovered?

I have seeeeeeeeeeeeeen pictures, "ARTWORK" of sequence, and the same "freaking" bone is used.

IF E is a FACT there should be MOUNTAINS of "BONES" not one or two bones presented as the "LINK".
141 posted on 12/04/2003 6:47:15 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts; VadeRetro
Vade has a photographic sequence of quite a few hominid skulls. Of course, even though he's posted them about a jillion times on these threads, you've never seen them. Even after he posts it on this thread you'll conveniently never see them.
142 posted on 12/04/2003 6:50:50 AM PST by Junior ("Brillig and the Slithy Toves" would be a great name for a band.)
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To: VadeRetro
Interesting what you call "mantras". I am not the one who came up with the "MISSING LINK" mantra.

You expect under the "E's" "mantra" of sequential transition pictures, with no bones, to give evidence to be called "FACT".

I look at what is evident, what the Bible does in "FACT" say and the evidence does not dispute what is Written, in fact the evidence proves what is WRITTEN.

HAVE YOU NOT READ?

143 posted on 12/04/2003 6:53:21 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Junior
So you know what I have seen? Evolved well past the rest of the hominids. So is this what the future in evolution holds, "reading minds"?

Now exactly HOW many hominid skulls have been found?

144 posted on 12/04/2003 6:57:09 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: William Terrell
virtually every fossil we find should be that of a transitional form?

Yes and no, depending upon your definition of a transitional form.

It is not possible to have a transitional form between two species, since a genetic modification is binary. You have either have it, or you do not.

Within a family, each species will be closely related to each other. There, you will find many transitional species between the oldest and more recent along a time-line.

That is like stating that there are no transitional forms between male and female children in a family. Yes, that is very true and factual. However, they do share a common set of parents and are closely related.

As with the difference between male and female, you are one or the other. There are no transitional forms and it would be impossible to find any fossils of them.

145 posted on 12/04/2003 7:12:41 AM PST by Hunble
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To: Just mythoughts
You expect under the "E's" "mantra" of sequential transition pictures, with no bones, to give evidence to be called "FACT".

This is a joke at so many levels. Level One:

Linked to this thread already:

Source. These are not the only pictures in existence, by the way. What you noisily demand from others, you could have looked into for yourself had you the slightest curiosity to know if there existed evidence against your position. That of course would be a very un-creationist thing to do and you didn't do it. Then, the odds were incredibly against. At the seminars that crank out cookie-cutter cloned mantra-chanters, they teach you to be dragged kicking, screaming, and professing ignorance.

Level two is coming next. It doesn't matter what bones are provided. Your demand is empty, posturing for the lurkers. There are stupid lawyering tricks to make any amount of unwanted bones go away.

146 posted on 12/04/2003 7:13:53 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Just mythoughts
I have seeeeeeeeeeeeeen pictures, "ARTWORK" of sequence, and the same "freaking" bone is used.

The limitations of a Jack Chick education are your problem, really.

147 posted on 12/04/2003 7:15:23 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: bluejay
Here is your paraphrase of the book:

To make it even worse, the book goes on to point out that there are (unarguable, in my opinion) similarities between construction of a whale fin and a human hand. Based on this, they conclude that there is no God. Somewhere, between a fact (anatomical similarity) and a conclusion (there is no God) is a leap of logic that I simply could not penetrate.

And here, according to you, is what the book actually said:

Descent with modification is evident in anatomical similarities between species grouped in the same taxonomic category. For example, many of the same skeletal elements make up the forelimbs of humans, cats, whales, bats, and all other mammals, although these appendages have very different functions (figure 22.9). Surely, the best way to build a bat's wing is not also the best way to build whale's flipper. Such anatomical peculiarities make no sense if the structures are uniquely engineered and unrelated."

I have no intention or hope of making you see the point. I merely put the case before the lurkers. I trust them to form their own conclusion. But it is interesting to observe what leaps of logic you are willing to make.

148 posted on 12/04/2003 7:19:46 AM PST by js1138
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To: Junior
Evolution is not the only hoax being forced upon our society by "scientists" with an evil agenda:



The scientific case against Craterism

1. Meteor craters are not observed to be happening now.
2. Meteor craters have not been observed to happen in the past.
3. Thomas Jefferson said: "Gentlemen, I would rather believe that two Yankee professors would lie than believe that stones fall from heaven."
4. The odds against a rock falling from the sky in a random fashion and making a crater are astronomical.
5. The second law of thermodynamics prohibits meteor craters.
6. Meteor craters are not mentioned in the bible, and are thus blasphemy.
7. Meteor craters have never been reproduced in the lab, and are thus not scientific.
8. Belief that rocks can fall from the sky promotes hedonism and animalistic, amoral behavior.
9. Craterism is a product of materialism and a naturalistic worldview.
10. Craterism makes no predictions and is untestable; it is therefore not scientific.
11. Craterists point to evidence of micro-cratering, but have no evidence of macro-cratering.
12. Scientists are abandoning craterism because they know it is not supported by evidence.

149 posted on 12/04/2003 7:21:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Everything good that I have done, I have done at the command of my voices.)
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To: VadeRetro
Every new fossil that's found creates two new "gaps" that the C's can point to...
150 posted on 12/04/2003 7:23:08 AM PST by general_re (Knife goes in, guts come out! That's what Osaka Food Concern is all about!)
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To: Pharmboy
Carl Sagan is in Hell right now trying to convince Satan that Evolution is a "Fact".
151 posted on 12/04/2003 7:23:39 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: Junior
The hominid skulls are at TalkOrigins for anybody to use, apparently. (Nice they don't block links the way some sites do.)

And, before anybody takes off on T.O., they simply compile and present the real research in biology/paleontogy. You'll see the claim from the mouth-foamers that they're making it all up or something.

The gimmick here is that if science ignores the creationists, that's evidence of conspiracy. However, anyone who bothers to answer the creationists is some kind of Satanist materialist and may be dismissed for bias.

152 posted on 12/04/2003 7:23:48 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Craterist dog! Admit it. You spread the Satanic belief that rocks fall from the sky.
153 posted on 12/04/2003 7:26:14 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Everything good that I have done, I have done at the command of my voices.)
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To: general_re
Every new fossil that's found creates two new "gaps" that the C's can point to...

And Piltdown Man, discovered 1912, was a fake. (So true, and it always will be.) And no fossil has been found morphing into anything else. (So true, they all just lay there.)

154 posted on 12/04/2003 7:26:42 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Hey wait a minute, call me stupid, call my education limited all you want, that does not change the problem you have.

Now there is a long, long, list of things I could say about you, and what you "CHOOSE" to believe.

You are "FREE" as it is WRITTEN to CHOOSE to believe anything you CHOOSE to. I cannot alter the traces etched in your mind to "SEE" anything different than what you have been programmed to believe.

So the best you can offer are insults, to seek credibility for your belief, a "religion". No "heaps" of "SKULLS" or "skeletal remains" just artwork and words, quite a fairy tale you got going there.
155 posted on 12/04/2003 7:28:54 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: PatrickHenry
You spread the Satanic belief that rocks fall from the sky.

I've called several down myself in Satanic rituals with the Hillary-Witch. (Note to creationists: the preceding is sarcasm.)

156 posted on 12/04/2003 7:29:39 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Just mythoughts; Junior
No "heaps" of "SKULLS" or "skeletal remains" just artwork and words, quite a fairy tale you got going there.

Junior predicted you in advance very well.

157 posted on 12/04/2003 7:31:06 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Junior apparently has reached the pinnacle of evolution.

Last phase before the "crash and burn" AGE, "mind readers".
158 posted on 12/04/2003 7:32:48 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: VadeRetro
Pretty much. If you have A & C, they'll ask you where B is. Find B, and they'll ask you for the things that come between A & B, and B & C. Find those, and they'll ask you...

Expect to be arguing about "transitionals" unto the end of time ;)

159 posted on 12/04/2003 7:34:18 AM PST by general_re (Knife goes in, guts come out! That's what Osaka Food Concern is all about!)
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To: Just mythoughts
I'm going out for a bit here to join the panic-shoppers the day before the snow hits. You might use the time to force yourself to look at post 146. So far, you're making Junior look like an absolute seer. He said you wouldn't see the skulls even when they were posted.
160 posted on 12/04/2003 7:35:15 AM PST by VadeRetro
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