U.S. Programmers at Overseas Salaries

Businessweek ^ | 12/03/03 | David E. Gumpert

[mac_truck]

Of course, I have already given you two ideal contemporary examples, of the harm that tariffs cause. I could mathematically prove them to you, but it won't change your uninformed opinion. You have, after all, made up your mind- facts be damned.

Sounds like another lame excuse from someone, who when challenged repeatedly to do so , can't back up his own assertions and rhetoric.

You should either provide the mathematical proof or admit you can't. -

[Capitalist Eric]

Sounds like another lame excuse from someone, who when challenged repeatedly to do so , can't back up his own assertions and rhetoric.

Think what you like.

Your analysis of the Airbus example given by Crapitalist Eric is spot on.

Your conclusion demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding- the same as harpseal. Neither you nor he follow the example of Airbus or Japan through to their logical conclusions. Not surprising- most people can't.

[harpseal]

You have ye3t to cite facts you are simply anothere lying SOCIALIST. All socialists are pigs. All those who seek to destroy America are worse than pigs. Therefor, you are....

Now once more cite me one specific example of atariff causing a NET/B> harm to the American economy. Do not simply cite higher prices for consumers than they could get from untariffed imports there are as you have pointed out numerous instances where tariffs may be used to encourage industries. You seem to think that only nations other than the USA have the right to have thier industies encouraged.

You brought up airbus and I am so glad you did as it is a prime example of nations using subsidies to provide false competition that harms Americans.

[harpseal]

As I said before, you're too stupid to consider seriously.

Okay you ignorant arrogant idiot sociailaist anti-American piece of offal. I have had enough of your personal attacks.

Further commentary, FReepmails, etc. will be studiously ignored.

Please do ignore. I do not liek trying to be reasonable as I have been by asking you to cite a specific case or more than one where an American tariff did net harm to the USA. I have given you a link to a 62 page quantitative analysis showing how tariffs are needed in specific cases. Yet all you seem to be able to do is provide links to economic papers that give theory but no substance and even then that theory may well be arguing for tariffs as much as against them. Mark Twain once opined that one should never argue with a pig a wastes your time and anonys the pig. Well I gather I ahve hereby annoyed the pig.

harpseal= ignorant putz.

Well sociailist eric if this is the best you can come up with I was being generous to state you did not have the intellect to pour P*ss out of your own boot with an instruction manual.

[harpseal]

WE have a bunch of posters who seem to think the USA should kowtow to every foreign economic whim because some call it free trade. It is not Free Trade that is a major part of the problem. Free Trade implies access for American made products to foreign markets on an equal footing with foreign producers being able to sell in American markets. Unfortunately that is not what Clinton's trade representatives negotiated for the USA. What we have is a set of socialist rules that are falsely labeled Free Trade.

Tariffs are IMHO neither all good nor all bad. They are a tool for international negotiations to maintain the American economy. I find it amazing that to be in favor of Free Trade one must be for foreign tariffs on American goods because it helps industries in foreign countries for government subsidies to industries for export like Airbus and still call it a free market. They do not want the government interferingly in the market as long as we are only talking about the American government. They love every other government interfering in the American economy to the detriment of our economy.