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Howard Dean, Friends Recall Howard Dean's Intensity, Worldly Ways
New Haven Register.com | 12/3/03 | Mary E. O'Leary

Posted on 12/03/2003 5:15:10 AM PST by thesummerwind

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To: MIchaelTArchangel
(he listened but did not hear.)

"And in the naked light I saw ten thousand people, maybe more. People talking without speaking, people hearing without listening." -- Simon and Garfunkel

Maybe one of you has it backwards.

21 posted on 12/03/2003 6:56:45 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
oh, Howie, you're so inclusive!

the guy who gets sucker-uppers to follow him around is the one I'd be suspicious of.

22 posted on 12/03/2003 6:59:25 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Hillary's Folly
but unpretentious is hardly a word I'd use to describe him.

That was then, and this is now.

The man has evolved, poorly. ;)

23 posted on 12/03/2003 7:00:01 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: kanawa
Yikes! He looks like Chelsea Clinton! Poor Chelsea.
24 posted on 12/03/2003 7:00:10 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: futureceo31
I see Dean as a pompous windbag and smart know it all right now. Hard for a leopard to change its spots and you can see that come through in his rants....

Maybe that old nagging "back injury" he conveniently used to bail out of the military is making Howie irritable, you know? You know what that chronic pain can do to the personality ;)

I hear you, he has a short fuse TODAY. Btw, I wanted Chris Matthews to drill him about the eight months of "skiing" the other night on TV, so Howie's fuse would explode. But Matthews punked out and avoided it. Bummer. That may have been a great TV moment!

25 posted on 12/03/2003 7:12:05 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: shrinkermd
He is about as attached to political principles as he is attached to the practice of medicine

Since you say that, maybe you can fill me in here.

I saw him on Leno a while back, and I am having a hard time remembering exactly all that he said. (Btw, he's very thrifty, once way back he wanted to save this old favorite suit he had, so to clean it, he threw it in the washing machine!) But what I got from the appearance was that he actually practiced medicine for a very, very short time. Do you have anyhing on that? That part of his bio is conveniently missing from all the sites I'v gone to to find out.

Btw, did you know that he took a fling at being a stockbroker first, then blew that off quickly and went to medical school.

You're right, he does have all the markings of a spoiled upbringing. But in my own life, some of those very spoiled kids, could be good people too.

If you know anywhere I can learn about his very brief medical practice, I would appreciate it.

Btw again, he started his medical practice in 1982 in Shelburne, and then won election to the Vermont House in 1982 (what he and his wife referred to as "a part time job, more like community sevice"). In 1986 he became Lieutenant Governor, and in 1991 Gov. Snelling died, and voila, Gov. Deano!

But as I said before, if you have more to fill in the holes, that would be appreciated. Somehow, I think he's getting over on America by promulgating the impression that he was a practicing medical doctor for some extended time. I think not!!!

26 posted on 12/03/2003 7:29:14 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: shrinkermd
Why he should win is immaterial. He is about as attached to political principles

I must ask you. Where did you learn this?

27 posted on 12/03/2003 7:31:00 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: the invisib1e hand
sucker-uppers

Who may they be - following him around?

28 posted on 12/03/2003 7:33:23 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
"...year older than most of his colleagues, a little more worldly, better traveled and just generally ahead of the curve."

Stopped reading after 1st sentence...obviously biased BS. Since when does one year make someone "more worldly"? Crap.
29 posted on 12/03/2003 7:39:59 AM PST by JSloth
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To: the invisib1e hand
He looks like Chelsea Clinton!

LOL! I was thinking along the lines of a youger Bette Midler, or, Paul Simon when he had hair! ;)

By the way, do you think his locks were that long when he went, x-rays under his arm, into the physical examination to squirm out of the military?

I'll bet he begrudgingly trimmed them for that event. What do you think?

30 posted on 12/03/2003 7:40:20 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: JSloth
Since when does one year make someone "more worldly"? Crap.

Yeh, come to think of it, that was pretty stupid.

"Howard Dean came to Yale a year older than most of his colleagues, a little more worldly, better traveled and just generally ahead of the curve." Maybe he HAD travelled more than most, or not. ;)

Oh well, there are some things in the article that I can relate to, like finishing off that keg early in the morning! ;)

31 posted on 12/03/2003 7:45:53 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
Who may they be - following him around?

... "He was seldom, if ever, a loner. He was always the guy who was getting a group of people together, and he was very inclusive,"

32 posted on 12/03/2003 8:59:16 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: thesummerwind
Why he should win is immaterial. He is about as attached to political principles I must ask you. Where did you learn this?"

Answer: Watch what he does, not what he says. His speeches, his body language and his contact with his opponents in debates is especially revealing of what I said. In addition, watch for his general lifestyle over decades--it is of an upwardly climbing person whose principles and policies are in constant flux as demanded by the conditions he faces. For example, he has recently sealed all his papers as governor for 10 years!

I don't think he is difficult to understand at all. He is the Sammy Glick of politics and his opponents are aware of that, but don't know how to address it.

33 posted on 12/03/2003 9:49:31 AM PST by shrinkermd (i)
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To: thesummerwind
Your post is a waste of time. These comparisons to ole' Howie 'The Ski Bum' are more than foolish.

Ipso facto. When I read your very analytical artical from such a prestigous publication, I knew you into being intellectual and thoughtful! So I thought I would give you something to tickle your exquisite brain and make you really think about your buddy "How ee'"!

ite, missa est

34 posted on 12/03/2003 9:57:40 AM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: TrueBeliever9
artical=article typing too fast
35 posted on 12/03/2003 9:59:10 AM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: thesummerwind
"Btw again, he started his medical practice in 1982 in Shelburne, and then won election to the Vermont House in 1982 (what he and his wife referred to as "a part time job, more like community sevice"). In 1986 he became Lieutenant Governor, and in 1991 Gov. Snelling died, and voila, Gov. Deano!

Answer: Let us see he had four years of college, four years of medical school and three years of residency to practice only a few years. After 11 years of training being a Lt. Gov of Vermont (all 600 thousand of them) appealed to him. Not only that he was a man of the people where in Vermont 96% are white, 51% are women and the only noteworthy minority are Gays are proportionately more common in Vermont (second highest proportion for states).

This man took a cynical chance to win the brass ring by claiming the anti-war Democrats (20% of the population). Now he is faced with expanding his base --I note he is now wearing a sport coat with an American Flag in the lapel. Nice try, but he is leading his party over a political cliff to some short-term state of oblivion. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy and party!

36 posted on 12/03/2003 11:04:53 AM PST by shrinkermd (i)
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To: shrinkermd
he is now wearing a sport coat with an American Flag in the lapel.

You might like this from Ann Coulter about Doctor Howie Dean;

Howard Dean talks about his brother Charlie's murder at the hands of North Vietnamese communists. Bizarrely, after working on the failed George McGovern campaign, Charlie Dean went to Indochina in 1974 to witness the ravages of the war he had opposed. Not long after he arrived, the apparently ungrateful communists captured and killed him. Hey fellas! I'm on your s-- CLUNK!

Howard Dean wears his brother's battered 1960s belt every day. (By contrast, Ted Kennedy honors the memory of his deceased family members with several belts every day.)

37 posted on 12/03/2003 11:36:46 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: TrueBeliever9
When I read your very analytical artical from such a prestigous publication, I knew you into being intellectual and thoughtful!

Is that a sentence, TB9?

"artical".......hmmm!

"I knew you into being".......have another drink, TB9.

You're a freeper, so I love you. But spelling ("artical") and sentence structure ("I knew you into being") indicates something about you.

Back to school for you perhaps. ;)

38 posted on 12/03/2003 11:47:54 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
("I knew you into being") indicates something about you

YEP - I'm bored silly! That is why I opened your thread - boredom! Still Bored! FR does not have one interesting or exciting thread at the moment!

Allow me to edit: "I knew you were into being intellectual...."

aut disce aut discede Did I spell that right?

39 posted on 12/03/2003 11:53:02 AM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: TrueBeliever9
God knows.......oh, that's you. ;)
40 posted on 12/03/2003 12:15:42 PM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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