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Hammering Fellow Republicans
Townhall ^ | 11/27/03 | Robert Novak

Posted on 12/02/2003 9:55:51 AM PST by Askel5

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1 posted on 12/02/2003 9:55:51 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
And on the other side of the aisle?
2 posted on 12/02/2003 10:00:15 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: Askel5
Reps. Trent Franks of Arizona (a ninth defector from the Toomey letter) and Butch Otter of Idaho

Wonder what they got?

3 posted on 12/02/2003 10:00:27 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Askel5
Politics is politics.
4 posted on 12/02/2003 10:00:52 AM PST by theDentist (Liberals can sugarcoat sh** all they want. I'm not biting.)
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To: Askel5
If there's one thing Novak understands, it's bashing Republicans.
5 posted on 12/02/2003 10:02:14 AM PST by aynrandfreak
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=== Then things got personal.

=== On the House floor, Nick Smith was told business interests would give his son $100,000 in return for his father's vote.

=== fellow Republican House members told him they would make sure Brad Smith never came to Congress

=== Duke Cunningham of California and other Republicans taunted him that his son was dead meat

=== Republicans voting against the bill were told they were endangering their political futures.

=== Intense pressure, including a call from the president, was put on freshman Rep. Tom Feeney. [...] Feeney was told a "no" vote would delay his ascent into leadership by three years -- maybe more

=== They were warned that if this measure failed, the much more liberal Democratic bill would be brought up and passed

Feeney held firm against the bill. So did DeMint and Akin. And so did Nick Smith. A steadfast party regular, he has pioneered private Social Security accounts. But he could not swallow the unfunded liabilities in this Medicare bill. The 69-year-old former dairy farmer this week was still reeling from the threat to his son. "It was absolutely too personal," he told me. Over the telephone from Michigan Saturday, Brad Smith urged his father to vote his conscience.


As opposed to the Winners.

7 posted on 12/02/2003 10:03:07 AM PST by Askel5
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To: TonyRo76
=== Let's hope so!

well, as this article indicates, the President and the GOP Leadership are seeking to drum out the vestiges of the real right with their threats to all and sundry who refuse to allow the Government and their pet Pharmas to pork out at the taxpayers' expense.
8 posted on 12/02/2003 10:04:30 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Republicans voting against the bill were told they were endangering their political futures

BUMP for the last of the real Republicans.

Bush is a certified Socialist; where do we go now?


9 posted on 12/02/2003 10:04:59 AM PST by putupon (Great Society®;Compassionate Conservatism®,;HillaryCare®:: Equality in Misery, Fellow Travelers .)
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To: aynrandfreak
If there's one thing Novak understands, it's bashing Republicans.

In this case, he's correct. We were facing a future entitlement train wreck before this bill, and the pubbies just made it worse.

10 posted on 12/02/2003 10:05:00 AM PST by dirtboy (New Ben and Jerry's flavor - Howard Dean Swirl - no ice cream, just fruit at bottom)
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To: HarleyD
=== And on the other side of the aisle?


We have dems laughing so hard it's nearly impossible to shout: "Oh please, don' throw me in dat briar patch!!"
11 posted on 12/02/2003 10:05:18 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
I'm sure this stuff goes on all the time, but it is sickening to read about it. Not the last you'll hear of this story - it will make it into the talk/news cycle.

a_r

12 posted on 12/02/2003 10:06:01 AM PST by arkady_renko
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To: aynrandfreak
=== If there's one thing Novak understands, it's bashing Republicans.


Aw, you think he's "bashing" the Pubbies?

Let's hear your take on the story, please.

I want to know why in the hell it was so important this bill pass? What's with the threats?

Surely if one can apply such strongarm tactics to one's own, it oughta be a piece of cake to play hardball with the opposition.

13 posted on 12/02/2003 10:07:17 AM PST by Askel5
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=== Politics is politics.


I see.

If it's the "evil" Clinton and his minions pulling fast one, they're fair game and it's critical we "fight the good fight".

But if the Pubbies are pulling out all the stops to screw us over, we merely shrug our shoulders and chalk it up to "politics".
14 posted on 12/02/2003 10:08:54 AM PST by Askel5
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To: putupon
=== BUMP for the last of the real Republicans.


Hear hear!!

If there's one good thing about stories like this, it's the knowledge that somewhere are yet good men and true who not only have but abide by their consciences.

None of this "I'm personally opposed, BUT ... " schtick for them.

They've no fear of acting in public on the "personal values" for which we put them in office in the first place.
15 posted on 12/02/2003 10:10:40 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
But if the Pubbies are pulling out all the stops to screw us over, we merely shrug our shoulders and chalk it up to "politics"

Yawn, askel. looks like you all are losing your battle to say the Pubbies are worse than the demos and thus you psoting this article and you almost giving half the replies so far.

BTW, Ms. Purer than thou on abortion, would Al Gore have signed a partial birth abortion ban?

16 posted on 12/02/2003 10:12:45 AM PST by Dane
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=== Wonder what they got?

Me too.

Frankly, I find those who hold out to the last minute on "conscience" only to fold are probably the most despicable individuals of all.

How can we put it past them to be holding out only to apply a little pressure themselves for one "it's personal" project or piece of pork.
17 posted on 12/02/2003 10:12:54 AM PST by Askel5
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I wish this kind of stuff surprised me.

It would be laughable at this point for the GOP to claim it is fiscally conservative.

But folks like Feeney, DeMint, Akin, and Smith still give me hope.
18 posted on 12/02/2003 10:18:30 AM PST by k2blader (Haruspex, beware.)
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=== BTW, Ms. Purer than thou on abortion, would Al Gore have signed a partial birth abortion ban?

If it had the same teeth this one dose, I don't see why not. What's to lose with a bill every bit as substantive as the potemkin "Parental Consent" legislation Bush passed as Governor of Texas?

But hey ... thanks for bringing up my Pet Peeve that is respect for human life.

Somehow I doubt very seriously that Gore would state in public that he believes life begins at conception and still manage to cop Clinton's exact "compromise" on ESCR.

Takes a true Pro-Lifer to effect a coup like that.



=== Yawn, askel. looks like you all are losing your battle to say the Pubbies are worse than the demos
At least the Dems aren't hypocrites.

=== and thus you psoting this article and you almost giving half the replies so far.

I'm not entitled to respond as I wish to anyone who posts on "my" thread? I'm going to assume your < yawn > indicates you are still sleepy and aren't up to casting anything substantive in the way of aspersions.

19 posted on 12/02/2003 10:19:13 AM PST by Askel5
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To: arkady_renko
Not the last you'll hear of this story - it will make it into the talk/news cycle.

Not from a true conservative perspective.
The Axis of Weasels will march out their cheerleaders to praise this GOP "achievement".
The 'Rats will whine that this descent into marxism isn't enough.

History will judge the Bush/Klinton/Bush era very harshly.

20 posted on 12/02/2003 10:19:39 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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