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ARMORED WARFARE: The Q-Truck in Iraq
Strategypage.com ^ | December 2, 2003 | Harold C. Hutchison

Posted on 12/02/2003 9:03:30 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4

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1 posted on 12/02/2003 9:03:31 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4
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2 posted on 12/02/2003 9:04:41 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (The Republican Party's priority is national security. The DemocRATic Party's priority is power)
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To: SAMWolf
FYI
3 posted on 12/02/2003 9:06:33 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Guns Up!
4 posted on 12/02/2003 9:09:54 AM PST by lormand (Dead People Vote DemocRAT)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Hmmm...
That'd be a surprise to some people.
Maybe that's what happened in Samarra yesterday?
5 posted on 12/02/2003 9:12:21 AM PST by Darksheare (Even as we speak, my 100,000 killer wombat army marches forth)
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To: xzins
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6 posted on 12/02/2003 9:15:07 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; snopercod; joanie-f
American "Rat Patrol" --- fitting.
7 posted on 12/02/2003 9:18:25 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Blueflag
"some are also being placed on the M872 Heavy Equipment Trailers. This might sound unusual, but the trucks are large, can carry a lot of ammunition, and guerillas in Iraq might not suspect they are armed at first. "

Not so unusual....there were heavily armed merchant ships in WWII mixed in with the convoys....gave the bad guys a nasty

8 posted on 12/02/2003 9:18:33 AM PST by spokeshave (Cancel the San Jose Merc and the one way truck to Nevada)
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To: Darksheare
Maybe that's what happened in Samarra yesterday?

Maybe, but I don't think so. After listening to all the analysis and trying to glean facts from the CPA and CENTCOM briefings, here's what I think about Samarra...

The Brinks delivery truck, after being hit on 5 consecutive runs, received a better armed escort than usual. The robbers, having been lulled by earlier successes and driven by a need for new cash, gambled on catching the convoy off guard.

We won, they lost.

9 posted on 12/02/2003 9:21:32 AM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's Grace. Come home when the job's done. We'll be here.)
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To: Blueflag
Seems like sound thinking to me.

Reminds me of the W.E.B. Griffin books....I think the Lieutenants (Maybe Captains) where the hero hangs armor plates and 50 cal's onto his jeeps and trucks and rips through the N. Korea/Chinese forces.

We need to think in terms of a true offensive rather than a reactive offense.

I'm thinking a planned, thought-out, cordon and search of the entire country.
10 posted on 12/02/2003 9:22:42 AM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: Darksheare
But to stay on topic...

What a surprise the litte sheet heads are gonna get the first time they try to pick off a supply convoy with no apparent escort!!!
11 posted on 12/02/2003 9:23:33 AM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's Grace. Come home when the job's done. We'll be here.)
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To: HiJinx
*Chuckles*
And the press going ga-ga over the bodies disappearing.
*snort*

Still, THAT was a nice action.
12 posted on 12/02/2003 9:25:15 AM PST by Darksheare (Even as we speak, my 100,000 killer wombat army marches forth)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Bring back the Guntrucks!

13 posted on 12/02/2003 9:28:03 AM PST by SAMWolf (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.)
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To: HiJinx
"Today's YOUR lucky day!"
*bang*
Truck will open up with just about everything.
I'd love to see a pic of the look on the lead goatboy's face.
Especially if there's more than one truck.
14 posted on 12/02/2003 9:30:31 AM PST by Darksheare (Even as we speak, my 100,000 killer wombat army marches forth)
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To: SAMWolf
Twin miniguns with 12,000 rounds total in the hoppers.. oops.
15 posted on 12/02/2003 9:31:37 AM PST by Darksheare (Even as we speak, my 100,000 killer wombat army marches forth)
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16 posted on 12/02/2003 9:35:39 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (The Republican Party's priority is national security. The DemocRATic Party's priority is power)
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To: SAMWolf
The South Africans and Rhodesians used chassis of dump trucks and build a steel basin on it with overhead armor, firing ports and windows. The heavy chasis and steel basin protected the driver/crew and passenger from landmines. RPG's could not stop them due to its immense size. The vehicles height gave the passengers a great view and line of sight for shooting down on their attackers. These things were called Rhino, Buffalo and other large animals, because they were large and ugly, but they got the job done. Time for DoD intel to dig up those vehicle blueprints from the defunct white Rhodesian and South African military.
17 posted on 12/02/2003 9:49:12 AM PST by Fee
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To: SAMWolf
I want one!
18 posted on 12/02/2003 10:02:03 AM PST by Prof Engineer (Labrador Retriever~from The Latin, meaning~ Affection Sponge)
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To: Prof Engineer
Yeah! Being on the wrong end of Quad 50's can really ruin your day.
19 posted on 12/02/2003 10:06:39 AM PST by SAMWolf (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.)
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Aren't most of the casualties due to roadside bombs? We need more armor on the Humvees and trucks, not necessarily more firepower.
20 posted on 12/02/2003 10:07:09 AM PST by BadAndy
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