Ferocious Gun Battle That Left No Bodies

The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 12-2-2003 | Jack Fairweather

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

This is an example of what happens to the human body when one consumes too much TINFOIL!

Notice the absence of expression. All that is left is an empty cranium, armed with fangs that lash out freely without thought or care of the outcome. These creatures also violate their living space as well as others around them with fecal matter that flows freely from their jowls.

These TINFOIL eating BABOONS just don't belong in a forum where ignorance dominates the tone.

Oh, I digress! there is a forum where such ignorance dominates. I believe they call it DemocRAT Underground......(They're waiting for your contribution, but we here certainly wish you would go there so you can spew your hate with them in unison.

[AmericanVictory]

If you actually knew what happened in VietNam, you would know, that as here, the enemy would take away the bodies and deny their kills and casualties. For example, in the battle for the A Shau valley, the other side denied the kills and casualties, but as it happened their was a special forces unit behind their lines on the other side of their ridge line who saw and talled them taking quite a number of the bodies out which they then denied as kills. Later we were able to verify the actual kill numbers through statements of the NV commanders. After Abrams replaced the incompetent Westmoreland and dropped the emphasis on body counts, which was foolish, our numbers became increasingly accurate.

[Burkeman1]

You know what? I agree. I am totally wrong. This war in Iraq is going great. It is a big bonus for the GOP! The 200 billion we will spend every year on Iraq certainly makes the mere 40 bilion on the "Republican" Old Timers drug give away and medicare program seem like a bargain!

But we got this war! And "War" is "conservative" because at one point left wingers "protested" against war 30 years ago!

Never mind that Conservatives were the leading anti war adherents for the first 150 years of this nations history and even up until William Howard Taft and Calvin Coolidge.

Never mind that- TR, FDR, Kennedy- are the new heros of
"conservatism" today.

[Mr. Mojo]

I reminded a leftist friend the other day (who maintains that the GOP is the "war party") about WWI (Wilson), WW2 (FDR), Korea (Truman), Vietnam (JFK and LBJ), and Kosovo (Clinton). Didn't want to hear it, of course.

Most conservatives aren't war-mongers -- we advocate war only when we see it as necessary for our survival as a nation. And although I know you don't agree, this (WOT) is one of those times.

[Burkeman1]

I don't like to call it the WOT and I agree with certain aspects of it like trying to chase down Al Queda and other such groups. I don't think Iraq is part of the WOT or a good idea in such a fight.

But your exactley right. The GOP is not the "war" party. The Democrats can claim that title with far more justification than us. If a Dean or Kerry or Hillary (or worst of all Strangelove Clarke) were to become President the war would get worse in Iraq and may even expand to another country. Don't believe the oppurtunistic rhetoric they use now and the ocassional peeps against the war.

[txhurl]

I don't think Iraq is part of the WOT or a good idea in such a fight.

Then why are you with us analyzing this here?

[Burkeman1]

Going Fetal? Are you serious (I so wanted to say worse)! Going fetal is putting 130,000 troops in a country that has never been the focus of terrorism and certainly not the 9/11 attack as BUSH HIMSELF SAID!

True bravery would mean standing up to our own bureacracy and putting every illegal Arab out of the country and then securing our borders in a serious way. But instead we invade Iraq to make it "Democratic" and thus have a "revolution" around the entire Islamic world. That means jobs for a lot of bureacrats and a lot of contracts for a lot of years for defense companies. But it also means war for years and years. Eisenhower was no fool. It also ensures more killings of American civilians in terrorist attacks. But that is the cost we pay for our big gubmint that "cares" about us.

[Burkeman1]

Sorry. I guess you want an Echo chamber in which nothing you post is ever challenged? Is that it?

I am here because I am a Conservative. Why are you here?

[txhurl]

I am here because I think Iraq is part of the WOT.

If you don't, well, fine. See you on the other side.

[Burkeman1]

Well- we disagree on the Iraq war. We agree on getting Bush re-elected at least (for the supreme court nominations sure to come at least). But besides that- I would rather have a Republican like Bush run a war I disagree with than A Democrat.

[txhurl]

Thread, web, spider.

[Burkeman1]

Sorry?

[chudogg]

According to everything i have read. Muslims are very good at burying their dead. Something to do with getting their 72 virgins in Paradise. The U.S. military saw this in Somalia and were amazed that there were never any dead bodies around.

[Burkeman1]

Oh really? It was magic then? All Muslims are good at taking their bodies and body parts and I guess even blood off the battle field from Somalia to North of Baghdad? Is this a tactic learned from child hood? They know how to clear their dead from the battlefield without our knowledge? As of today- The USA has yet to produce a single body from this engagement and yet they claim 46 to 54 dead!

[chudogg]

My completely unsubstantiated guess would be that the Iraqis went in afterwards with a pickup truck for cleanup, and it woulnd't surprise me if they purposely buried the bodies in secret to take advantage of western media propaganda, but i wasn't there, perhaps the 4th I.D. knows better than i do, they're the ones who gave the reports.

Have you ever checked DU? They tend to believe the Iraqis over the U.S. troops just as you do.

[Burkeman1]

You may be completely correct and I completely wrong. News reports of these events tend to be wrong at first 99 percent of the time! Give it a few days. I may have to issue a major "mea culpa" to all those who agreed with the first reports of 46 to 54 dead with 18 wounded and 6 captured.

But if I am right and no bodies or real proof is offered? What will you do?