AIDS cases rising among gay men

News Leader ^ | November 29, 2003 | Joseph B. Verrengia - AP

[Xenalyte]

Down here in Houston, on one of our great talk-radio stations, we have a traffic chica by the name of Natalie Fitzgerald, and one time during an unscreened segment, a guy called in and said his name was Gerald FitzNat . . . and was cut off just in time. I almost ran off the road, I was laughin' so hard.

[clee1]

Anally Injected Death Syndrome: Buh-bye fruit flies!

[clee1]

There are only three ways for a monogamous heterosexual can get AIDS: 1) an AIDS tainted medical procedure, or 2) sharing needles with an infected IV drug user, or 3) from an infected cheating spouse.

[Siamese Princess]

Remember reading some deplorable article somewhere that wove back and forth between being disgusted at such behavior, and being ecstatic over it. I felt like washing my hands after reading the article.

I recall a discussion on the Free Republic about it -- the original article was in Rolling Stone. Apparently, some homosexuals think it is fashionable to be HIV-positive and that they can live comfortably with it if they receive some sort of treatment.

It is safe to say that the longer a person who is HIV-positive or with full-blown AIDS lives the more people he may infect. So any effort to extend the lives of victims will by definition further increase the spread of the disease because the victims live longer, with no obvious symptoms, and so spread it further. In a way, we are defeating our own purpose.

[tubavil]

Who cares. Don't stick your dick in an infected hole. Problem solved.

[RonHolzwarth]

Don't get raped either.

[longfellow]

AIDS cases rising among gay men
GOOD!

[tubavil]

Or go to the dentist (Kimberly Bergalis) right?

The disease base is with homo males. They can't be troubled to slap on a rubber, as it would detract from the 'naturalness' of the moment, so we all have to suffer, and pay billions that could be spent on diseases not resultant from abominable, immoral, and dysfunctional behavior: breast cancer, heart disease, or Alzheimer's. Charming.

[Fledermaus]

It's not an argument about wheter or not an act is "pervereted". It's simply whether or not it's healthy and who those committing the acts are.

Forget AIDS, I got the same talks before AIDS about syphliss and all those other STD's going around in the late 60's and throughout the 70's. Remember when it was generically called "VD"?

[Hank Kerchief]

There are only three ways for a monogamous heterosexual can get AIDS: 1) an AIDS tainted medical procedure, or 2) sharing needles with an infected IV drug user, or 3) from an infected cheating spouse.

Well, there are actually other ways, 4) healthworker needlesticks, 5) being raped, etc. Statistically, AIDS among monogamous heterosexuals is insignificant. By monogamous, I mean actually monogamous, which would exclude #3 for me. I also suspect #2 would be extremely unusual for the truly monogamous. There is one more way, of couse, contracting the disease from a spouse that got it by any of the ways, 1, 4, or 5.

Personally, I think nothing should be done about AIDS. It is essentially a self-limiting disease. During the 90's there were significant drops in the rate of new AIDS cases, primarily because the disease had reached saturation for the group which is "at risk." New drugs are allowing HIV and AIDS infected people to live longer, giving them time to infect new members of the at risk group, (especially as members of that group are introduced at ever younger ages) so statistics are currently rising. It is only temporary, however.

Hank

[Darksheare]

Yes.
That is the case.
But truth never makes sense to the Liberal mind.
*ugh*
They seem to think that Aids is spread due to lack of government nannyism.

[traditionalist]

march in lockstep down the isles, and settle down to respectable monogamy for the rest of their lives.

The term would be monoandry in the case of fags. Monogamy would be correct in the case of dykes. But who are we kidding?

Even advocates of homosexual marriage admit that only a tiny proportion of homosexuals stick to only one partner. Perversion leads to chaos, not order, but most people today can't grasp this simple truth.

[traditionalist]

Personally, I think nothing should be done about AIDS. It is essentially a self-limiting disease.

I agree with everything you said except the above. It is a self-limiting disease in the first world. It is NOT in the devloping world, particularly Africa. In primitive conditions, where the blood supply can't be screened as well as ours, where people still practice tribal and pagan rituals involving blood, and where mass infections of STDs such as syphilus facility HIV infection, HIV can spread like wildfire.

When a whole continent (Africa) and huge chunks of another (Asia) gets decimated by the disease, we're bound to feel it, especially in today's world where travel and trade are so widespread.

[Hank Kerchief]

When a whole continent (Africa) and huge chunks of another (Asia) gets decimated by the disease, we're bound to feel it, especially in today's world where travel and trade are so widespread.

Then we'll have to dig in. There is no practical thing that can be done to "help" those who are determined to destroy themselves. The one thing we must do is stop throwing millions of our dollars away on them. We'll need them when the crunch you described comess. They won't.

Hank

[NCLaw441]

85% not safe? Just have anal sex 85 times, then quit, right?

[DaBroasta]

When homosexuals began dropping dead in the early 80s, a brilliant young scientist researching the problem came up with a low-cost, simple formula guaranteed to prevent the disease now known as AIDS--"Sit on your ass and keep your mouth shut!"

[DBrow]

Here is the link to the report itself:

http://www.niaid.nih.gov/dmid/stds/condomreport.pdf

This report contains an estimate of the condom's effectiveness in preventing tramsmission of AIDS from an infected person to a non-infected
person, in heterosexual vaginal encounters.


"Among participants who reported always using condoms, the summary estimate of HIV/AIDS incidence from the twelve studies was 0.9 seroconversion per 100 person years. Among those who reported never using condoms, the summary estimate of HIV/AIDS incidence from the seven studies was 6.7 seroconversions per 100 person years. Overall, Davis and Weller estimated that condoms provided an 85% reduction in HIV/AIDS transmission risk when infection rates were compared in always versus never users."

85% reduction in risk translates to 15% failure to protect- about the same odds as playing one-cartridge Russian Roulette.


They are less effective for some other diseases, for instance a 33% reduction in risk of chlamidia infection for men.

You make a good point- if you think a condom is "protecting" you, you may feel free to engage in more frequent risky behaviour, and eventually the hammer falls on the full cylinder.

Thus, even with all the effort put into "safe" (meaning consquence-free) homosexual sex leads to an increase in the AIDS rate.

[Ron in Acreage]

Homo alert+ Keep your tool in your pants and out of mens asses.

[DBrow]

"Even advocates of homosexual marriage admit that only a tiny proportion of homosexuals stick to only one partner."

This means that once homosexuals get permission to marry, they will face the shock of divorce, property division, alimony, and support. I think then that the big push will be to eliminate these from the law, and then we will have no real marriage for hetero or homosexual couples, just cohabitation with employer and government provided benefits. Makes sense, all the activists will need to be active for something, the next step.

The concept of the state helping to underwrite a lifetime promise to care for someone will be gone, and Marx will have achieved his goal to eliminate bourgoise marriage from society.

[cyborg]

I'll never understand anal sex, other than some heterosexual men's desire to have the feeling of a tight virgin (which is laughable in itself since these men screw anything that moves). Crap comes out of there. These people wouldn't stick their organs in raw sewage would they?

Yet, I turn on MTV and they're having AIDS concerts and all this stuff (with no mention of lifestyle).