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Behind Beauty of 9/11 Designs, Devil May Be in Nuts and Bolts (Liberal Whining Begins Already!)
The New York Times ^
| November 30, 2003
| Eric Lipton
Posted on 11/30/2003 2:07:54 AM PST by Timesink
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posted on
11/30/2003 2:07:55 AM PST
by
Timesink
To: NYC GOP Chick
Whinefest alert!
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posted on
11/30/2003 2:08:46 AM PST
by
Timesink
(I'm not a big fan of electronic stuff, you know? Beeps ... beeps freak me out. They're bad.)
To: Timesink
Geez! Just reading this crap is giving me a migraine!
To: NYC GOP Chick
Articles like this prove to me that this country does not have economic problems. We can waste money and not even blink an eye.
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posted on
11/30/2003 4:16:03 AM PST
by
doosee
To: NYC GOP Chick
huck:
why not just put a working fire station and precinct house there as a NYC-type, in-your-face statement that our lives go on and that in their memory and honor we're not to be deterred by anyone.
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posted on
11/30/2003 4:30:41 AM PST
by
dadokane
(25DEC27.3AM brother firemen give gmom news he died fighting fire seen on way home)
To: Timesink
I think all this will likely be moot.
I suspect NYC will be nuked and vast areas abandoned before any of this gets very far.
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posted on
11/30/2003 4:54:20 AM PST
by
Quix
(WORK NOW to defeat one personal network friend, relative, associate's liberal idiocy now, warmly)
To: Quix; Cincinatus' Wife; Grampa Dave; ALOHA RONNIE; Travis McGee; Joe Brower
I think all this will likely be moot. ... I suspect NYC will be nuked and vast areas abandoned before any of this gets very far. BTTT - and if it isn't, George W. Bush will be blamed for prosecuting a useless war in <fill in the blank>.
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posted on
11/30/2003 5:23:18 AM PST
by
risk
To: Timesink; NYC GOP Chick
I don't see any leftism in this article. All I see is a reasonably decent analysis of the negatives and positives of various designs.
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posted on
11/30/2003 5:28:10 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !)
To: Quix
I suspect NYC will be nuked and vast areas abandoned before any of this gets very far.If NYC is nuked, there will be a global 5 year depression that will make the Great Depression look like a wonderful period of prosperity, there will be a World War, and the Constitution will be suspended in the United States permanently.
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posted on
11/30/2003 5:31:29 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !)
To: Lazamataz
The collectivist principles demonstrated in this article are unbearable. Self centered panels pretending to be artistic.....Blah
There should be an artist so bold as to propose rebuilding the towers and making them airplane proof as a fitting tribute.
To: doosee
If you want a really haunting memorial, play the tape of people hitting the ground after jumping to their deaths. And then think of what they thought in their final moments. That would be a memorial that pays tribute to the poor souls that had no choice and not to the self posessed mopes that are really making monuments to themselves.
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posted on
11/30/2003 6:29:59 AM PST
by
Thebaddog
(Scratch where it hurts.)
To: Quix
I suspect NYC will be nuked and vast areas abandoned before any of this gets very far.Geez Quix, that's a bit ... morbid, don't you think? Nuked as in dirty bomb, or a serious honest-to-God mini-Hiroshima?
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posted on
11/30/2003 7:03:39 AM PST
by
Timesink
(I'm not a big fan of electronic stuff, you know? Beeps ... beeps freak me out. They're bad.)
To: dadokane
Great idea! One more thing; rebuild the towers, exactly as they were, but 111 stories high instead of 110.
To: nutmeg
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posted on
11/30/2003 7:28:47 AM PST
by
nutmeg
(Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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To: Timesink
Have felt for more than a decade or two that NYC would be nuked with a genuine nuclear blast of some sort [not dirty bomb type] and/or a very devastating quake/tidal wave or meteor.
I now am more convinced that London will get the meteor and be inundated by the sea.
NYC will get a nuke.
I don't know if this current time frame in months is that time. I'm convinced it will be in my lifetime and probably sooner than later.
I do believe Al-Qaeda has 'suitcase' nukes that are potent, maintained or whatever's necessary to make them work. I believe more than 1 or 2 of them are already in the USA. I don't know how big the nuke will be that hits NYC. I suppose it depends on whether it is an Al-Qaeda preliminary move or a genuine part of WWIII proper.
I wish I didn't feel this way. This is not a fun conviction to have. I take some comfort in my not being 100% accurate in such hunches. But it's sobering that I've been as accurate as I have been with these TYPES of hunches [experientially speaking of my subjective experience of such hunches].
I was thinking lying in bed this morning . . . if Al-Qaeda does such, we should:
1) nuke Mecca and Medina and perhaps the Saudi capital.
2) Wall off Israel from Jordon or Jordon from Saudia Arabia and mine the whole wall with nuke mines.
3) Remove all Palestinians and nonChristian Arabs from Israel, Jordon, Syria and Lebanon and give all that land to Israel.
4) We should so notify Bin Laden.
Nothing short of such drastic actions will even much blunt Al-Qaeda's determination [and growingly the Islamic world's determination] to destroy us.
Of course, that determination would be redoubled at that point, if not quadrupled. But there would be less of them. And they might have more respect for our survival instincts and will at that point.
And, we'd likely have to be ready to take on Russia, China, Mexico et all and the puppet masters in toto.
I doubt God is going to allow us to do things that way. I think He has other things in mind.
But HIS PLAN WILL BE MUCH MORE DEVASTATING TO *ALL* EVIL EVERYWHERE--including within each heart of every man, woman and child alive.
Times ARE a changing, group. Choose this day, whom you will serve. Shrillery and company as tyrannized slaves
or
The Lord Jesus The Christ as a love slave in His Freedom, Blessings and Abundant Eternal Life.
The choices are narrowing rapidly.
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posted on
11/30/2003 8:25:43 AM PST
by
Quix
(WORK NOW to defeat one personal network friend, relative, associate's liberal idiocy now, warmly)
To: Lazamataz
I suspect you are far more right than wrong.
I do believe that the puppet masters have told Bin Laden et al that the puppet masters are going to use Bin Laden and crew to soften up the USA in prep for WWIII and attacks by China and Russia.
I don't think Al-Qaeda would have made some of the brasher pronouncements without such scripting by the puppet masters.
But supposedly, God is going to give us 1-3 years of relative peace before that time--according to SOME. We shall see.
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posted on
11/30/2003 8:32:44 AM PST
by
Quix
(WORK NOW to defeat one personal network friend, relative, associate's liberal idiocy now, warmly)
To: risk
There is that potential as far as Shrillery, her goons and the 30+% traitors in the land are concerned, alright.
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posted on
11/30/2003 8:33:42 AM PST
by
Quix
(WORK NOW to defeat one personal network friend, relative, associate's liberal idiocy now, warmly)
To: thatsmrfoster2u
rebuild the towers, exactly as they were, but 111 stories high instead of 110.And the extra floor on each for memorial space, that has been my thoughts all along. As for exactly the same, one major change, LOTS of asbestos all the way up this time and all involved forever shielded from lawsuits.
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posted on
11/30/2003 8:46:24 AM PST
by
StriperSniper
(The "mainstream" media is a left bank oxbow lake.)
To: StriperSniper
As for exactly the same, one major change, LOTS of asbestos all the way up this time and all involved forever shielded from lawsuits. The only way asbestos would've made a difference in the first disaster is if both buildings were entirely built of asbestos-covered concrete. The fireproofing got blasted off the columns when the planes hit, and a brittle material like asbestos wouldn't have held on no matter how thick it was.
Snidely
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