Gussying Up the Gun Show Lie

mensnewsdaily.com ^ | November 27, 2003 | Jan Ireland

[jalisco555]

Haven't heard much about the "gun show loophole" lately in the mainstream press but I'm sure it's still a liberal fetish.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

It still lives and breathes inside the DNC. Its remission is only temporary.

[WorkingClassFilth]

I don't think you will hear too much about it from now till next November either. Unless, of course, there is a covenient and juicey multiple homicide with all of the low-fruit propaganda elements in it.

Fact is, the leftist gun grabbers continue their work - researching case law, fund raising, state law making in the regulatory vein, judicial action at lower level benches and, of course, fear mongering propaganda for the faithful. However, they are definitely NOT interested in having this albatross issue hanging around their necks in upcoming elections. The are learining that anti-2A politics is a killer for them and is only safe to openly advance when they are in firm control of government. In fact, a search of FR will yield several threads that documented the seminars and strategy sessions the RATs have been having to find ways to recast themselves as (are you sitting down?) pro-gun, pro-God and supporting traditional values. This fall, expect a lot of duck hunting photos, family togetherness, bible-totin' and cookie recipies to be staple offerings from the RAT creatures seeking power.

The lull we are in is like calm on the ocean. What lies over the horizon and what lurks beneath the surface is what one really ought to keep an eye cocked for and use the relative calm to prepare for. RATs are de facto communists these days - there is never any reason to ultimately suspect anything less than totalitarianism from them so think, act and develop strategies accordingly.

Just my $0.02.

[scotiamor]

The DNC, under control of "new democrats", discovered in the 2000 election, maybe before, that advocating gun control was a losing position for democrats so ordered all candidates to be evasive about their true position. But if Howard Dean or other liberal captures the nomination, then liberals will take over the party organization completely and you might see a more public and true Democrat (which is to say virulently anti-gun) position out of the DNC.

[jalisco555]

I agree completely. If the Dems manage to win the White House watch out.

[Eastbound]

"What lies over the horizon and what lurks beneath the surface is what one really ought to keep an eye cocked for and use the relative calm to prepare for. RATs are de facto communists these days - there is never any reason to ultimately suspect anything less than totalitarianism from them so think, act and develop strategies accordingly."

That's wisdom, and worth a heckuva lot more $.02.

[dcwusmc]

Bump and ping for the LIARS...

[Neil E. Wright]

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms

REPORT
of the
SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE CONSTITUTION
of the
UNITED STATES SENATE
NINETY-SEVENTH CONGRESS
Second Session
February 1982

Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary

Click here to read the report BY THE SENATE that finds an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT to keep and bear arms

"The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every major commentator and court in the first half century after its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner."

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±

"The Era of Osama lasted about an hour, from the time the first plane hit the tower to the moment the General Militia of Flight 93 reported for duty."
Toward FREEDOM

[SAMWolf]

2nd Amendment bump

[Eastbound]

" . . . . indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner."

CONGRESS RECOGNIZES RIGHTS OF ALL PRIVATE CITIZENS TO OWN AND CARRY FIREARMS!

Looks to me like a sweeping declaration of the incorporation of the Second Amendment over all states to me. California and New York folks take note! Anyone disagree?

[Eastbound]

Now let's see how cleverly gummints are going to equivocate on this and weasle out of it.

[firewalk]

Thanks for the ping

[Eastbound]

Oh! You mean like "peaceful manner' means your guns can't look ugly and must be safe and you must register them and you can't buy or carry one without a license and you must be an adult and you can't carry on Saturday and Sunday and you must have a trigger lock on it and it can't be an auto-feeder and your magazines can only have three bullets and you have to manually cock and load the gun after each shot and you can't own a weapon that is superior to the cops and military and you can't own more than one gun and you can't own a 50 caliber and that you will be gassed, shot, incinerated and bull-dozed into a pile if you don't comply and . . . . .

This is only a one-paragraph edit of the anti-gunner's 25,000,000 run-on gun laws in place.

[nygoose]

Now let's see how cleverly gummints are going to equivocate on this and weasle out of it.

Orrin Hatch chaired the sub-committee that did the study and he wrote the final report. He is now Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Do you ever hear him mention the study or its conclusions? It's been conveniently forgotten as if it never happened.

[Gritty]

The lull we are in is like calm on the ocean

It sure is. Much like the house which looks so sound until you start testing the beams and find them hollowed out by termites.

The biggest long-term threat is the way the publik skools and Media are successfully demonizing guns, especially with their hysteria-enhancing "zero-tolerance" policies. Kids are being propagandised daily to abhor and fear guns, and preferring "safety" to freedom. Someday these kids will be voters, and poorly informed and frightened ones at that, all too willing to chuck the 2nd AMENDMENT and the others for a pottage of "safety".

The ultimate goal is to do to firearms what has been effectively done to cigarretts - make them socially unworthy and marginalize them. The gun-grabbers are about half-way to their goal, IMHO.

You want some proof? Reflect on how many kids are taking up hunting and/or shooting as opposed to hanging out at the malls or playing senseless video games. You seldom see youngsters in the woods or on the range. They are simply not interested. That requires patience, time, effort, skill and sometimes discomfort, with often little tangible reward. It is older men you see doing these things.

[Eastbound]

No, haven't seen any mention of it either. It would be a good report to keep a copy of in your pocket constitution and just wave it under a judge's nose if you have to.

[El Gato]

or to get a state permit to hold a garage sale after spring cleaning

The city of San Antonio, which tends toward the "Huey Long" style of government, requires Garage/Yard sale permits. They aren't cheap either. Enough discourage any budding young capitialists from setting up to sell there cast off toys and clothes. They'd rather have them sucking at the government teat, which they control. However if the city tried that with guns, even it weren't against state law to do so, there would be widespread civil disobediance. (As there is with the garage sales, but this would be well armed civil disobediance. :)

[WorkingClassFilth]

In my extended family over the last five years, between a brother and myself, about a dozen young'uns have been taken to the range to have a good time and learn a little gun safety. It is assumed in our clan that guns are not bad and for a fair number of us they are the very tools of freedom. Even anti-2A inlaws have been taken and at least two of them were converted. Firearm use and ownership is better than selling religion because protelytizing is easy - a little common sense training and an afternoon with a .22. If they like it, let 'em bust some caps and blow up a milk jug or two. Move on to heavier hardware as the convert grows in the light of truth.

The whole point is that if you have a good relationship with somebody and they care about you as a person, when you introduce them to shooting sports (and by extension 2A rights) you automatically set up a cognitive dissonance in their thinking when confronted with the bogus claims of the fascist gun-grabbers. If all goes well with the time you spend cultivating your relationship, they'll default to your side by reason of your example. Give 'em a good time, give 'em the facts and you will have given the anti-2A's hell.

[Gritty]

In my extended family over the last five years...

I agree with your efforts and do the same myself.

The problem is the American culture is no longer pro-gun or even neutrally so. We are swimming against a tide of anti-gunners and "safety" freakos who control the media and the schools and therefore control the minds and desires of much of the growing population. Sure, we can individually have an effect with those we know. But in general, the young are being turned into anti-gunners through the culture around them.

Again I ask, do you see fewer or more young people hunting and/or shooting than 20 or 30 years ago. And if not, why not? There are a lot more people today than then.