Clark Post During Waco Gets New Attention

Drudge Report | Nov 28, 2003 | PETE YOST

[coloradan]

ALL this is still beyond the realm of believabilty ...

No, what's beyond the realm of believability is that the Clinton administration murdered a bunch of religious zealots and lied about it, and you are here defending the Clintonoids.

[GatekeeperBookman]

Please help us all-is the photo original from your source & what's the source?

"The War does indeed have many facets; http://aztlan.net/ Look at your enemy."

[GatekeeperBookman]

You are good. I shall remember that one, along with the tanks from Paleo Conservative. But then, Waco was surely the most bizarre & criminal event in the history of the US government-an easy target.

"The War does indeed have many facets; http://aztlan.net/ Look at your enemy."

[GatekeeperBookman]

Please, do you have source for the photo? Pardon my ignorance of the coverage-this may be commonly known-I just think the impact may be far greater if we know the photos in the thread are authentic-taken at the scene & not altered. Some people who have never considered these things will see all this & we may gain from what can be verified.

"The War does indeed have many facets; http://aztlan.net/ Look at your enemy."

[GatekeeperBookman]

I never use the stuff-but I recall that Coleman sells labeled cans which use that word. It is kerosene or fuel oil or a petroleum distillite-the handle 'fuel' may be the most common one-since it neither truly fish nor foul-not gasoline, not truly deisel ( I don't think, anyway ) & not alchohol.

I have no idea of the authenticity of what is being thrown around here. Too bad so many folks are so unruly.

"The War does indeed have many facets; http://aztlan.net/ Look at your enemy."

[GatekeeperBookman]

My distinct memory of the events surrounding Waco, includes WHO was governor of our State. I shall look at the dates & confirm my recollections.

This concerns me as much as ANY other aspect. Hundreds, several hundreds in fact, of armed Dept of Public Safety TROOPERS could have put a halt to the nonsense within perhaps three or four hours of the opening bell. Their mere arrival on scene could have been achieved an immediate end to this & was possible via the authority of the GOVERNOR-who is supposed to be in charge of that Agency of the State & was derelict in the extreme for ALLOWING the federal storm troopers to do what they did.

The Governor was as guilty as anyone. federal police powers should be REVOKED. They are specious & were 'invented' from the stale air of the US Congress.

Never again...

"The War does indeed have many facets; http://aztlan.net/ Look at your enemy."

[Vigilantcitizen]

"I never use the stuff-but I recall that Coleman sells labeled cans which use that word. It is kerosene or fuel oil or a petroleum distillite-the handle 'fuel' may be the most common one-since it neither truly fish nor foul-not gasoline, not truly deisel ( I don't think, anyway ) & not alchohol."

Back before unleaded gas, you could by the same fuel out of the premium pump of any Amoco. The old timers called it "white gas".

[samtheman]

No, what's beyond the realm of believability is that the Clinton administration murdered a bunch of religious zealots and lied about it...

It was an administration built on lies. It built the economic bubble on a foundation of lies regarding the worth of many public companies. (The press doesn't tell the story of the Clinton involvement in the bubble-build-up.) It lied about the need to go in to Kosovo. Clinton lied about what he was doing in the White House with young girls. Lied about it under oath. And Reno lied about the whole Waco operation.

I don't have any personal knowledge of what happened at Waco but I do know this: I do not trust that administration on that issue. I clearly remember the news shortly after the event and Janet Reno trying to distance herself from what happened and it wasn't her fault because she'd been nudged out of the loop by the good-old-boys in the FBI. What wasn't her fault? That the Davidians set the fire themselves? I remember the tone of the argument being much different. Reno was saying that the over-use of force was not her fault.

Now, it seems, history has been re-written. There was no over-use of force. Really, no force at all. Only the Davidians playing with matches, and as someone here pointed out, talking about it in very non-human ways ("do you have the fuel... do you have the fuel yet... do you have the fuel...").

The government version of that event reminds me much too much of the immortal words of the Leader of the Free World in the 1990s: I did not have sex with that woman.

[JZoback]

Will there ever be any justice in this tragedy?

No, the word never comes to mind

[Darksheare]

If you call that support for your point, then you are indeed delusional.

[Darksheare]

Tanks have tossed treads for less Jim boy.
Have you ever served in the military?
I have, and you'd be surprised by the stupid things that will make a tank tread come off.

[Smokin' Joe]

Regardless of who supplied the military items, Danforth's investigation concluded that no one from the government fired a gunshot - despite being fired upon - at the Branch Davidian complex on the final day of the siege.

I do not live, nor have I ever, lived so far away from a cow pasture as to not be able to identify the substance of this statement.

[Smokin' Joe]

Yep. This was on the back side of the building from where the CEV's were inserting gas with the boom setup. The tank (may have been a Bradley) had a blade on the front.

[Cvengr]

I've reread post #1. He is 100% correct. _Jim is not only mistaken, he's emphatically wrong.

[ValerieUSA]

... and where was Danforth's reinactment of the final day of the seige held? Fort Hood! Oh yeah... how objective!

[Smokin' Joe]

They could have been making Molotov Cocktails with Coleman Lantern/stove fuel, too. This "evidence" has always seemed stilted and out-of-context to me. Nut the media wouldn't edit stuff, would they? (The Oscar for Best Documentary went to a hack job called "Bowling for Columbine", with copious edits covered by still shot cutaways, making Charlton Heston out to be a raving maniac.

Remember the Clinton 'Body Count' and tell me that they wanted the Davidians out, safe and sound, after subjecting them to some incredible crap during the 'seige'. Nope, even though the survivors of the fire were not given harsh sentences, a judge overruled the jury and put the survivors away for quite a few years. The site is supposedly still sealed.