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Scholars of Twang Track All the 'Y'Alls' in Texas
NY Times ^ | RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Posted on 11/28/2003 6:06:42 AM PST by Pharmboy

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To: Mercat
My grandparents and other relatives lived in a small town in East Texas. I grew up in Dallas. East Texans speak a lot differently than the city folk. Sometimes I couldn't even understand what some of them were saying.
141 posted on 12/05/2003 7:45:35 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: varina davis
The most interesting aspect of the Melungeons and other groups that are not of the three "original" groups in colonial America (northwest European white, West African black, and Northeast Asian "American Indian") is whether some of these people have Mediterranean, Middle Eastern, or other genetic heritage outside the three "original" groups. If they do, and at least with the case of the Melungeons, genetic markers have been found that indicates that this is the case, the next question is: how did they come to the Eastern or Southern states? (New York, New Jersey, Maryland, and Delaware have small Melungeon-like groups.)

Why this is important is based on the whole concept of race in America. The standard story on race in American history is that "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevilllllllllll" white men slaughtered and dispossessed the "Native Americans." Part of this story is that the pre-Columban inhabitants of the Western hemisphere (Eskimos excluded) were uniformly the descendants of Northeast Asians who migrated across the Bering Strait via an Ice Age "land bridge" 9,000-15,000 years ago.

This is the crux of the controversy about Kennewick Man. If DNA tests could establish that the remains found were not of Northeast Asian origin, but were in fact European, it would indicate that the original humans on this continent were of the same race as the Spanish, Portugese, English, French, and Dutch colonists who arrived after 1492. Thus, the cry of racism against these settlers would be less valid, as the Northeast Asians may have themselves dispossessed and slaughtered Europeans that preceded them in settling the Americas. The European takeover of the Western Hemisphere would be not unlike the Poles capturing the eastern German provinces of East Prussia, Pomerania, and Silesia after the fall of the Third Reich and "ethnically cleansing" them of Germans, though on a much larger scale. East Prussia, Pomerania, and Silesia had been Slavic lands in the early Middle Ages that were conquered and Germanized by men from Brandenburg and Upper Saxony. The Polonization of these provinces after 1945 was a reconquest of formerly Slavic lands by Slavs.

Another reason for the importance of the origins has to do with the standard historical theory of separate development. Mainstream historians, imbued with liberal theories of the equivalence of all culture and modern egalitarianism, react with fury when someone suggests that features of "Native American" culture, technology, religion, or language may not be autochthonous. They react against not only suggestions that American Indians were influenced by Europeans or Middle Easterners, but by East Asians or Africans. Thus, they will argue that artifacts such as Roman Empire coins in Venezuela or carved runic writings in Minnesota are fraudulent. To suggest that corn or tobacco may have migrated to Asia or Africa before Columbus is also heretical. If there is irrefutable genetic evidence that, say, southern Chinese people were in pre-Columban Mexico or Middle Easterners were in pre-Columbian North Carolina, the separate development theory would become invalid.

Most of the nation's academics and the liberal media elite will fight any attempt to deflate their fundamental beliefs. Where irrefutable evidence of Middle Eastern and Mediterranean genes exists among the Melungeons and similar groups, there will be attempts made to pin them on such people as shipwrecked Moorish or Iberian sailors, Turkish pirates, "secret" Jews, etc., all of whom would have arrived after 1492. However, if the origins of some of the Melungeons and similar groups included, for example, Phoenician or Hebrew traders from classical times, the theory of the autochthonous cultural development of the pre-Columban inhabitants of the Americas is invalid.

Political and philosophical issues are involved in the issue of the origins of the Melungeons and of the American Indians in general. Expect the liberal establishment to fight virulently against any attempt to overturn the established line on the "oppressed Native Americans in tune with the rhythms of nature."

142 posted on 12/08/2003 7:18:57 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Khurkris
One of the best examples of this is the TV show 'KING OF THE HILL'. Hank Hill talks real Texas.

Agreed. If somebody asks me for a good example of Texas speech, I point them there - they seem to cover several parts of the state just in the main characters. I believe Mike Judge does several of the voices and I'm somewhat amazed that he can keep them from running all over each other.

143 posted on 12/08/2003 7:41:49 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Centurion2000
I believe that we can thank the success of the TV show "Dallas" for some of it.

Don't forget the Dallas Cowboys.

I would also mention "Austin City Limits". I had a friend that worked with the Austin City Limits Music Festival, and he mentioned they had people from dozens of countries buying tickets and flying in.

144 posted on 12/08/2003 7:44:05 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Pharmboy
I think it's funny that someone from the New Yawk Times is examining Texas twang. Why don;t they stick to their own backyard and leave us alone? We still kick New Yawk's butt anyway!
145 posted on 12/08/2003 7:48:56 AM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Wallace T.; All
Thanks for the interesting reply. I've been studying the Melungeon question for some time and it only gets more and more fascinating. You're right, there are many socialogical, politial and physiological aspects involved.
146 posted on 12/08/2003 8:05:12 AM PST by varina davis
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To: The South Texan
Sheesh--sometimes the Times runs an interesting article; no one was being attacked here. If you'll notice, the example they showed was an academic--not some Bubba driving a pick-up truck. I took this to mean that us Yankees should STOP the tradition of treating anyone with a twang or drawl like an idiot.

And, if you actually read the responses to the thread you just might find some of the Texans' responses about the origins of the varied Texas accents quite interesting.

147 posted on 12/08/2003 8:10:45 AM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Wisconsin
What you were hearing was a dialect called Gullah, spoken by black people (and not a few whites) throughout the coastal South - all the way from Maryland down to Texas.
There are African elements in the speech pattern, but it is a dialectical variant of the English language.
148 posted on 01/06/2004 5:24:19 AM PST by sanctumsanctorum
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