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MORNING-AFTER PILL OVER THE COUNTER? (FDA Mulls Emergency Contraception without prescription)
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| November 26, 2003
| AP
Posted on 11/26/2003 8:06:19 AM PST by Scenic Sounds
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To: Scenic Sounds
Contraception advocates are pushing hard for no restrictions.
AHH yes, Death on demmand.
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:12:41 AM PST
by
GrandEagle
(I would like to say a hearty, heart felt THANKS to those who served in our nations armed forces.)
To: Scenic Sounds
NO COMMON SENSE AT ALL. BIRTH CONTROL PILLS SHOULD HAVE BEEN OVER THE COUNTER FOR ADULT WOMEN DECADES AGO!!!
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:16:20 AM PST
by
maeng
To: GrandEagle
Death on demmand. This could conceivably (bad pun) prevent some abortions, or do you consider any form of birth control a form of abortion?
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:18:34 AM PST
by
Amelia
To: Scenic Sounds
What a wonderful idea, now abortion can be a "choice" for the mother OR the father! Would it even be illegal for an expectant father to murder his unborn child rather than pay his girlfriend child support for 18 years? Even if it is, six months in jail might be a wiser financial decision in the long run. After all, the child has no rights according to our judicial oligarchy.
Mark my words, this poison will make abortion anyone's "choice".
To: GrandEagle
Where's the waiting period, background check, permit system for this drug? I have to go through such if I want to buy a new hunting rifle, yet the government (FDA) is considering allowing anyone to come in and buy this drug - without a prescription or any other protections. This drug not only has not been prooven 100% safe, but also will be used to kill many innocent babies.
I just don't get it.
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:25:52 AM PST
by
TheBattman
(You can feel the sarcasm in the air-)
To: TheBattman
It keeps a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus. Is that really killing a baby?
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:28:37 AM PST
by
EllaMinnow
(I miss Chancellor Palpatine. Heck, I even miss Illbay.)
To: Scenic Sounds
This is a stealth abortion issue. Once they get women used to the idea of "morning-after" pills, they can then claim that the pro-life activists want to take them away from them.
But from a pure public-safety and "safe sex" angle, this policy is a disaster. The message it sends is, "Don't worry about conventional contraceptives. You can always deal with it after the fact with a pill." While I agree that condoms are not the ideal solution for preventing pregnancy, STDs, and AIDS, the "morning-after" pill is certainly going to do nothing to stop these things. So perhaps we should point out that the "morning-after" pill actually sabotages the effort get get women to demand that men use condoms.
To: Amelia
do you consider any form of birth control a form of abortion? The doses used are intended to function as an abortifacient rather than as a contraceptive. Using these chemicals in these doses post-intercourse, you can't have one without the other.
To: Amelia
This could conceivably (bad pun) prevent some abortions, or do you consider any form of birth control a form of abortion? This particular form of birth control can work as an abortion. If it keeps sperm and egg apart, it is not an abortion. If it kills a fertilized egg that would otherwise live if it weren't for the treatment, then its an abortion. And, yes, that means that conventional birth control pills are questionable, as well.
To: redlipstick
It keeps a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus. Is that really killing a baby? If I drop you a baby from a burning building and you purposely decide not to catch it and let it fall to it's death, even if you could easily have caught it, did you kill the baby?
To: Scenic Sounds
Let's not use the term that came directly from hell, "emergency contraception." Let's call it what it is, an abortifacient.
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:33:38 AM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: Amelia
do you consider any form of birth control a form of abortion
This is a very interesting question and of great concern to me and my wife.
I have been doing some research and I think that I have found some enough information to form an opinion.
Keep in mind that what I state here is only an opinion.
From a biological point of view, once an egg is fertilized and the 23 chromosomes from each parent has combined to form a cell (a zygote I believe it is called), a human has been created. This cell contains all of the information needed to grow and develop. More importantly it is a HUMAN child. It will not grow up as anything else. It needs only the same thing children need after they are born - nourishment and protection.
I would consider anything that prevents the child from attaching to the uterus the same thing as starving a child to death.
Now, if it prevents the combination of the cells into a 46 chromosome human, I would not consider that an abortion. Life has not been granted at that point.
At this point in our investigation this is my opinion.
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:34:50 AM PST
by
GrandEagle
(I would like to say a hearty, heart felt THANKS to those who served in our nations armed forces.)
To: redlipstick
Is that really killing a baby? What do you think it is, an alligator?
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:35:45 AM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: Question_Assumptions; Ronaldus Magnus
This particular form of birth control can work as an abortion. If it keeps sperm and egg apart, it is not an abortion. If it kills a fertilized egg that would otherwise live if it weren't for the treatment, then its an abortion. And, yes, that means that conventional birth control pills are questionable, as well. Looking at the diagram in #1, it appears that scientists aren't quite sure how it works, or there's the possibility it might work in more than one way. There are several ways they think it might work to prevent fertilization, it appears.
Although of course using a dependable contraceptive and reduction of casual sex are both preferable, I'd think one emotional advantage of the morning after pill would be that the woman wouldn't know at that point whether she was actually pregnant or not.
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:35:52 AM PST
by
Amelia
To: TheBattman
"...but also will be used to kill many innocent babies"This should be changed to...
"be used to kill many innocent eggs!"
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:39:00 AM PST
by
Windsong
To: TheBattman
I just don't get it.
Me either. I'm responsable for my childrens actions until they are 18 but the government want those same children to be able to participate in behaviors that I believe are harmful; and assist them (my children) in their effort to hide that behavior from me.
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:39:07 AM PST
by
GrandEagle
(I would like to say a hearty, heart felt THANKS to those who served in our nations armed forces.)
To: Amelia
To clarify, we have plenty of ways of keeping a sperm and egg apart including the unreliable rhythm method, the ubiquitous condom, the diaphram, the sponge, and perminent sterilization. Other forms of blocking contraceptives have also been researched including tubal plugs and sperm vaccines. These are not abortions. Birth control pills walk a line between the two because they aren't 100% sure how they work (they may prevent fertilization but may also cause the death of a fertilized egg).
The problem is not giving women control over getting pregnant (though I can certainly argue that this has had negative as well as the obvious positive effects on society) but about deciding that you don't want to be pregnant after the egg has been fertilized.
To: Aquinasfan
Do you consider birth control pills to be abortifacients?
What about condoms?
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:41:25 AM PST
by
EllaMinnow
(I miss Chancellor Palpatine. Heck, I even miss Illbay.)
To: Windsong
Cannot say I agree - at what point does an un-fertilized egg become a "baby"? If this prevents the fetilized egg from implanitn gin the uterus, does that constitute a super-early abortion?
Furthermore - what affect does this drug have when taken after the egg implants? How many of us trust a desperate teen to follow directions properly? What are the risks of overdosing on this medication?
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posted on
11/26/2003 8:42:48 AM PST
by
TheBattman
(You can feel the sarcasm in the air-)
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