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GAY MARRIAGE Conservatives should insist on same-sex vows (Barf Alert
New York Times ^
| David Brooks
Posted on 11/26/2003 5:20:26 AM PST by Holly_P
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posted on
11/26/2003 5:20:27 AM PST
by
Holly_P
To: Holly_P
Doing so would strengthen marriage as an institutionNo. Doing so would invalidate it, and make it an abomination. IMHO
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posted on
11/26/2003 5:25:49 AM PST
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
To: Holly_P
I`ll insist on it when I can watch it without puking.
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posted on
11/26/2003 5:26:44 AM PST
by
metalboy
(I`m still waiting for the mass protests against Al Qaida and Saddam)
To: Puppage
Marriage joins two people in a sacred bond.Marriage joins a Man & a Woman in a sacred bond.
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posted on
11/26/2003 5:27:01 AM PST
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
To: Holly_P
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posted on
11/26/2003 5:33:56 AM PST
by
putupon
(Shoes for industry, pills for Bill Gates, comrades.)
To: Holly_P
This again proves how completely liberals misunderstand conservatives. They have no concept of where we're coming from. Suppose that's a tactical advantage. We understand them completely.
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posted on
11/26/2003 5:36:09 AM PST
by
DManA
To: Holly_P
"The conservative course is not to banish gay people from making such commitments. It is to expect that they make such commitments. We shouldn't just allow gay marriage. We should insist on gay marriage." I love it when liberals pretend to sound conservative. They never do a good job. This is one example. It's always obvious because they try to tell YOU how YOU should think.
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posted on
11/26/2003 5:36:40 AM PST
by
HarleyD
To: Holly_P
Re:
"....
Marriage joins two people in a sacred bond. It demands that they make
an exclusive commitment to one another...."
Under law, it absolutely should be permitted. There is no legal reason to
deny any two people making a lifelong commitment the benefits others
making the same commitment receive, simply because they meet a religious
description of "marriage".
If a lesbian female can marry a homosexual male; if we allow jailed
death-row prisoners to take vows of marriage; if we do not reject any
marriage under any other circumstances as long as both are of opposite
sex, then we are disallowing with hypocrisy and prejudice, Constitutional
rights and justice for all those of same-sex commitments
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posted on
11/26/2003 5:38:09 AM PST
by
Deep_6
To: Deep_6
Amen.
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posted on
11/26/2003 5:38:54 AM PST
by
armadale
To: HarleyD
I love it when liberals pretend to sound conservative. My thoughts exactly.
To: Holly_P
GAY MARRIAGE ConservativesOxymoron.
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posted on
11/26/2003 5:41:16 AM PST
by
JesseHousman
(Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
To: armadale
Brother and sister, father and daughter? Those okay too? Just want to clarify.
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posted on
11/26/2003 5:44:32 AM PST
by
garv
To: Holly_P
I'm not going to read the article because these things usually make me nauseas. But the thing I have never understood is why does anyone need permission from the government to get married? To me, that is the real issue that needs to be addressed.
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posted on
11/26/2003 5:46:08 AM PST
by
Kerberos
To: Deep_6
There is no legal reason to deny any two people making a lifelong commitment the benefits others making the same commitment receive, simply because they meet a religious description of "marriage". The ability to reproduce. The government has no compelling reason to care if Steve and Jim stay together in a committed relationship. BTW, if you really know the gay community, gays refers to actual gay marriages as 'mythical', because it is so rare in the gay community that two partners stay together very long. A study puts the length of these gay 'marriages' at 1.5 years vs. 7.2 years for a man and woman marriage.
To: Holly_P
But marriage is the opposite. Marriage joins two people in a sacred bond. It demands that they make an exclusive commitment to one another, and thereby takes two discrete individuals and turns them into kin. OK, let's use the definition of marriage as a vow of commitment. So if homosexuals want to commit to one another, who is stopping them?
Perhaps gay marriage is not really about pledging a troth for life, but about forced public acceptance.
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To: garv
Brother and sister, father and daughter? Those okay too? Just want to clarify. Don't forget those who commit crimes together. They can marry and then claim spousal privilege, then the courts couldn't force them to testify against each other.
Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of links.
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posted on
11/26/2003 6:42:40 AM PST
by
scripter
(Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
To: Puppage
Marriage joins two people in a sacred bond. How much longer until this becomes "marriage joins two creatures in a sacred bond"?
To: Deep_6
Two day ago I posted the following to you
Homosexual behavior, monogamous or not, results in severe health hazards. There's no evidence homosexual behavior is anything other than just that, behavior, and behavior that can be changed. If you don't have a problem with folks engaging in a destructive lifestyle, perhaps, unknowingly, you don't really care for the well being of gays? As I see it, the true friends of gays are those who condemn homosexual behavior and accept homosexuals as the human beings that they are.
For a different angle on where this homosexual marriage issue may bring us, check out what Boston columnist Howie Carr said here.
You responded with nothing but misdirection and misinformation. When asked to support your statements you didn't respond and I know why... you can't support your statements. The facts support what I said above and if you think otherwise, post a reference that supports your position. Anything else and you're supporting the homosexual agenda.
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posted on
11/26/2003 6:50:53 AM PST
by
scripter
(Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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