Nellie Connally Disputes Warren Commission

NewsMax.com ^ | 11/25/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

[tpaine]

Typical.
The burden of proof is on the accused, according to the Kommissions Kooks.

[tpaine]

DustyMoment
the bullet could have traveled upward from its presumed entry point in Kennedy's back to exit through his neck.

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Put on a suit & tie. Sit normally in the back seat of a convertible. Have someone look at a spot on your back 4 and a half inches below your suit & shirt collar, one inch to the right of the seam. Now, do you see that the bullet had to travel slightly upwards to exit at the tie?
Imagine a shooter six stories above, to the right rear. A bullet striking your back that low from that high an angle would exit your chest, hitting bone & creating a massive wound. No such wound.
- So perhaps this back shot fragmented, and a portion exited at JFK's tie..
- We will never know, because the wound was never probed at the so-called "autopsy".

Case closed on the single bullet theory.

[texasbluebell]

Explain it to yourself first and then get back to me.

It's been explained over and over for ages to you guys, but it's just not the answer you want.

[Ditter]

I might agree with you if John Connally had been hit first, but he was not. He & Nellie were recorded saying "first the president was hit then John was hit a few seconds later". I heard it out of their own mouths on the History Channel. They did not believe the Warren Commissions finding & they were very vocal about it.

[Ditter]

Some of the Warren Report supporters act like they are upholding the family honor. Strange.

[tpaine]

Ditter wrote: Some of the Warren Report supporters act like they are upholding the family honor. Strange.

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It's that old, old, "I must be obeyed" syndrome surfacing.
-- In fact, it is becoming FR's new fad.

Since they can't argue points with logic, the absolutists fall back on the 'you're too crazy to even discuss this with ploy'.
They then insist that their opponent be stopped from even pinging them or making any mention of them or their posts. -- Real neat way of 'winning' an argument.

Course, it sure defeats the idea of a free forum.

[PhilDragoo]

The President's personal physician, Dr. George Burkley, drafted the death certificate on November 23, 1963.

It stated the back wound was "at about the level of the third thoracic vertebra."

One of the autopsists, Pierre A. Finck, was questioned under oath February 24, 1969, in State of Louisiana v Clay L. Shaw:

Q Can you give me approximately how far this probe went?

A The first fraction of an inch.

The FBI autopsy report²³ stated the back wound entered ". . .a short distance. . .the end of the opening could be felt with the finger."

²³[Warren Commission Documents, 1964; Record Group 272, CD-7, pp. 280-285]

Hence, no transiting on to six more wounds, no Magic Bullet, no Single Bullet Theory, no Lone Gunman.

[#3Fan]

Holy cow, if it entered three vertabrae down, in order to go out at the throat, it would've had to been going up at 50 degreees from the horizontal, not including the fact that Kennedy was sitting in a seat where he was probably leaning back a little. Spector's SBT is just out there.

[texasbluebell]

That's right...

[texasbluebell]

Posting a link which I just saw over on the google alt.kennedy site.

Someone there spotted this on ebay, purportedly a photo taken just seconds before JFK was shot, and was wondering if it was the real deal and whether it tells anything new about the shooting.

Selling for a hefty sum too, actually I see the auction's over and it didn't sell, but photo is still there to view.

link to ebay auction of this photo

[texasbluebell]

Interesting, isn't it, that Clint Hill the SS agent who jumped on the back of the limo, and who viewed the body later, said in his WC testimony that the back wound was 6 inches below the neckline, not 5-1/2 inches below the mastoid.

[#3Fan]

Looks real. Seems reasonable that therewould be a lot of pictures floating around.

[#3Fan]

Interesting that whoever was directing security that day told Clint Hill he didn't have to go from what I heard somewhere. Jackie insisted he go though. He was the only SS agent to act when the shots rang out. The Altgens photo shows Johnson's bodyguards reacting as soon as the first shot rang out, getting out of their car to cover Johnson while Kennedy's SS agents never moved. Just another suspicious aspect in a long line of suspicious incidents.

[Shooter 2.5]

Still trying to perform an autopsy on a suit coat?

You were shown the autopsy photograph of the wound and the testimony of the people who did the autopsy showing 5 and a half inches from the Mastoid Process. Not five inches or six, five and a half. The two doctors from the emergency room agreed that the neck wound was an exit wound and you still insist two assassin's bullet perforated one inch of flesh.

[DustyMoment]

Gee, let me see. I have a shooter approximately 70 feet up in the air, perhaps as much as 75 yards in total distance away who is shooting down at a person sitting erect in a vehicle that is also on a slight downgrade and traveling away from the shooter.

For the bullet to have entered his back and exited through his neck, the bullet would have to have made about a 90 degree turn once it entered the back in order to exit the neck.

That scenario just isn't working for me, Shooter. The Drs. at Parkland testified that the neck wound was an entry wound and that the back wound didn't penetrate more than a fraction of an inch. The Drs. at Parkland have no political agenda and, therefore, no reason to lie about the wounds. The Drs. at Bethesda who performed the "official" autopsy, however (IMO), did.

However, just for fun, let's say that you are correct. Given all of the angles, if JFK were leaning over, with his chin resting on his knees, it is conceivable that the bullet that struck his back could have exited through his neck. But, that leaves us with the pesky problem of having to explain how that same bullet magically altered course and popped up over the middle seat to hit Gov. Connally. It is also troubling that, if the neck wound is truly an exit wound, how comes there isn't any spray of blood/tissue as it exits his neck? Troublesome questions, huh?

[texasbluebell]

It's hopeless trying to get through to the believers, isn't it?

[Shooter 2.5]

Not really if you know anything about firearms and what the trajectories were.

This is a shooting incident. Not a political one at this part of the discussion. Learn about the trajectories and what a rifle can do and then you might understand what happened.

And I would strongly suggest you forget about performing autopsies on suit jackets.

[chuckwalla]

They'll ignore your details and after a while say that there is no evidence to disbelieve the sbt theory. As if you never existed.
Or show that short clip of two frames where JFK moves forward then gets hit and the film stops there proving in their mind that the movement was forward when clearly the film stops at impact.
Or the ridiculous idea that LHO could not possibly have known when to shoot at exactly the same time as someone else so there were no other shooters.
Or that Connoly was hit at the same time because it is possible to hold on to a hat while the bones in the hand are being shattered.
Or that LHO's brother said LHO did it so that is enough.
Or that there was no shooter at the GK because Zapruder filmed part way over the wall and didn't see anyone.
The most childish stubbornness there is. But there it is.

[chuckwalla]

Only in a cartoon do your trajectories work.
You know the one where the bullet has a face and makes turns and follows Popeye around Olive Oils house and gets angry but keeps on for about twenty minutes until Popeye grabs his spinach.
You know the one I'm sure.

[chuckwalla]

shooter 54 where are you??????????
Can't take the heat.
Hit and run.
Truth comes out and you run.