Bid to block license law has immigrants on edge

I've never understood why people think a**holes who drive with no licenses, registeration or insurance will pay $xxx for insurance just because we give them a free license.

Above all that, (which is valid)----How in the H#LL is this guy registered as a student at college. What status does it show on his college admittance???? He is a Calif citizen? He is an out of state student paying more? He is an illegal immigrant and the college doesn't charge him anything???? WHAT????? THIS IS MY TAX MONEY, and I CANNOT AFFORD TO GO TO COLLEGE.....I'm PI$$ED, as you can tell.

I know of a man who was in his 50s, having lived here since he was a baby, illegally. He was deported to his native country. He didn't speak any language except English, knew no one in that country, and had to leave his family behind, they being U.S. born American citizens.

Why did he ignore the 1980's amnesty? Certainly he could have applied for legal amnesty then --- millions of people rushed over the border to get in on that who had never before stepped foot in the USA and didn't speak a word of English. What stopped your friend then? It'd be pretty rare to meet an illegal who only spoke English --- there might be a rare one --- but certainly isn't the norm.

they aren't here illegally from Mexico and have their drivers licenses and auto insurance.

Proponents of SB60 are LYING. They keep saying warm and fuzzy things like "this will prove they know how to drive" and This will make sure drivers have insurance". Both are wrong.

Unless the rest of the vehicle code laws are changed in Calif, there is NO current provision that a DRIVER who gets a license has to show ANY proof of insurance. The proof of insurance goes with the REGISTRATION of the car only. Even with that proviso, car owners will get insurance, show the "Proof" to get their car tags, and cancel the insurance. Hence- car is on the road with no insurance. Ask your insurance agent about this wonderful phenomonem.
As for being a better driver, the test to drive is very basic at best. The written test is given in I don't know how many languages, and the road signs are in English. I don't know how any of these people find a road or stay out of trouble driving as much as they do.
I do know one thing: My "Uninsured Driver" portion of my auto insurance used to be about $1.00 /month. Now it is $4.00 + /month on each of my vehicles and trailers. Truck (76 Chevy dually), car (79 Buick wagon), 2 horse trlr(1974), and 4 horse trlr(2001), means I currently pay prox $16.00 + /month for UNINSURED DRIVERS alone. I don't even want to ask my agent what it would be after Jan 04 if this bill doesn't get stomped into the dirt.
Drivers Licenses are good for 5 years, and are automatically renewed if you have no activity showing at DMV.
Since illegal immigrants by nature keep moving around and try to stay below the radar, where are the authorities going to find a bad driver who gets a ticket and leaves with the promise to appear in court? Spare me the BS of this whole issue. Cedillo can go back to Mexico and stop trying to impose this kind of legislation on Calif residents and the rest of the USA. JMO.

I have an idea: a reprise of Clinton's executive order granting expedited naturalization to people who served in the active-duty military during Gulf-War 1

Get something passed that, if you are an illegal, joining the military and serving 12 months in an active combat zone will get you naturalized. See how many take the US up on it, versus how many whine

One fender bender or stop by the police and the truth would be discovered: Ide does not have a driver license because he is not an American citizen.

The author would do better not to begin his story with such an outright lie in the second sentence. My wife is not a U.S. citizen and she's had several U.S. State DLs - of course that might be because she and the millions of licensed non-citizens like her, are legal immigrants.

Good point. I have no idea, and when the discussion came up about this man, I didn't ask my friend about it because it never crossed my mind.

Back to the discussion about the guy in the article, do you think that in his case, and others like it, the child should be deported even though the U.S. has been his home since he was 5 years old? He hadn't reached adulthood during the amnesty season.

You are right, vis-a-vis the 50 year old guy.

But what about the case under discussion, in which the illegal immigrant is only 19 years old and has been here since he was 5. Should he have to pay for the sins of his mother?

To me, this is an important sub-issue because there are probably plenty of children living in the U.S. in the same circumstances.

As to whether illegal aliens should, per se, be permitted to have driver's licenses, I firmly think they should not. The issue about illegal immigrant children is a different one, and I branched out from the original topic.

Apparently the 19 year old's mother is here as a legal immigrant, since she has a social security number. The subject of the article is in a different position than most illegal immigrants, and he is not at personal fault for being in this position. His mother and putative stepfather are, however.

Nonetheless, using this kid to bolster an argument for giving illegals driver's licenses is spurious. The argument about the kid is what to do about folks in a similar position, and has nothing whatsoever to do with the driver's license issue.

If the kid gets to stay legally because of his circumstances, or he doesn't, either way the driver's license issue is resolved. He's legal, he gets a license. He's illegal, he doesn't. It's as simple as that, as pertains to the driver's license issue, IMHO.

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