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Wal-Mart in China (Wal-Mart and Chicoms find common ground?)
The Nation ^ | November 20, 2003 | Carl Goldstein

Posted on 11/22/2003 5:14:21 AM PST by A. Pole

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No place for Solidarity in the free traders world.
1 posted on 11/22/2003 5:14:22 AM PST by A. Pole
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Cacophonous; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; ...
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2 posted on 11/22/2003 5:15:13 AM PST by A. Pole
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My heart really breaks for Walmart. (NOT)

Walmart has decided that it is better for them to abandon the free US worker and make love to the communist Chinese. I used to admire Walmart for its business savvy and the ability to streamline their business so well - back when they used to advertise "USA Made" - now I really don't care if the communists and the lawyers screw Walmart into bankrupcy.

If you sleep with dogs, don't be surprised if you get fleas.
3 posted on 11/22/2003 5:34:33 AM PST by Dr Warmoose
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Wang Meihua (not her real name), a perky salesclerk in her mid-20s dressed in a bright red Wal-Mart polo shirt and blue jeans, says most workers earn about $84 to $96 a month. That's enough to provide spending money for a young person with no dependents, but anyone trying to support a family on that wage would indeed be existing in a most basic fashion.

I wonder what "existing in a most basic fashion" means in China.

4 posted on 11/22/2003 5:37:17 AM PST by A. Pole
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I wonder what "existing in a most basic fashion" means in China.


5 posted on 11/22/2003 5:41:00 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: A. Pole
Yeah--ain't it amazing how the freetraitors and the ChiComs can agree: people don't really count when profits are the question.

Next step for the freetraitors: "one-child" policy for the USA.

Get rid of all those excess people.

6 posted on 11/22/2003 7:18:29 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: Dr Warmoose
Walmart has decided that it is better for them to abandon the free US worker and make love to the communist Chinese. I used to admire Walmart for its business savvy and the ability to streamline their business so well - back when they used to advertise "USA Made" - now I really don't care if the communists and the lawyers screw Walmart into bankrupcy.

Ditto. I have no support for those companies, or people, who want to ally themselves with chinese communists. The chinese communists are not our friends, and those who want to be partners with them(the free traders) are not friends of conservatives either.

7 posted on 11/22/2003 8:16:37 AM PST by waterstraat
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Wal-Mart has become a 'global' company...we in the USA are the consumers, workers in China are the producers. Whatever arrangement works out for the best bottom line is going to be used. It's the same for so many large companies today who say they 'can't remain competitive' using US labor or even nearby friendly countries' labor.

A pair of shoes or a car stereo might cost $10 in materials and only a few cents for assembly labor in China. Shipping and packaging costs might add a couple of bucks more. Yet when that item appears in US stores, it still costs $100. These companies complain that to make the same item here would cost maybe $75. Well hey, if they still sell it for $100 that's still a 25% profit margin...wouldn't that have been considered good a few years ago? As it is now, someone is making 75% profit off that Chinese-made item. Hmm.

8 posted on 11/22/2003 8:36:45 AM PST by Sender
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Interesting to see Freepers agree with the Nation...

China is becoming capitalist and you want to see us go in the Euro-socialist direction.
9 posted on 11/22/2003 8:38:29 AM PST by chipengineer
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Yeah--ain't it amazing how the freetraitors and the ChiComs can agree: people don't really count when profits are the question.

Yeah, commie or capitalist free traitor, they all bow down to filthy lucre in the end, eh?

10 posted on 11/22/2003 8:51:18 AM PST by Walkin Man
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China is not becoming capitalist at all. Nor are they wanting to be free, nor do they want to adopt our Bill of Rights.

China wants our jobs, our money, our manufacturing, our industrial power, our influence and power around the world. They have no desire for our freedom , and in a few decades, they will be powerful enough to stop freedom where ever it might try to appear.

The industrial might and high tech that we are transferring there, will eventually let them have nuclear missles, and chinese aircraft carriers all around the world.

Your grandchildren will wonder why you gave away all of americas power to the chinese communists - and will ask you why.

11 posted on 11/22/2003 9:00:39 AM PST by waterstraat
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A pair of shoes or a car stereo might cost $10 in materials and only a few cents for assembly labor in China. Shipping and packaging costs might add a couple of bucks more. Yet when that item appears in US stores, it still costs $100. These companies complain that to make the same item here would cost maybe $75. Well hey, if they still sell it for $100 that's still a 25% profit margin...wouldn't that have been considered good a few years ago? As it is now, someone is making 75% profit off that Chinese-made item. Hmm.

The free traders tell us that free trade benefits us all. Are you saying that cheaper production does not lower the price of the product? Are you saying that Nike shoes are not not dirt cheap?

If Nike shoes and other products are not dirt cheap, then what exactly is the benefit to the average american citizen of free trade(other than being forced to "retire" at a very young age)?

12 posted on 11/22/2003 9:04:11 AM PST by waterstraat
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China is becoming capitalist and you want to see us go in the Euro-socialist direction.

Actually China is merely using Capitalism tio deveop the nation. The leadership and owners are still hard core Marxists andthose who support the current regime are the ones supporting internationalism and socialiism (Marxism if you will). Let America stay free with free markets behind appropriate and reasonable tariffs.

13 posted on 11/22/2003 9:44:45 AM PST by harpseal (stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: A. Pole
Please use original headlines only. Thank you.
14 posted on 11/22/2003 9:54:02 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: waterstraat
You do realize that producers try to maximize profit? What else about capitalism do you not understand?
15 posted on 11/22/2003 9:54:06 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Walkin Man
In the case of China, give them credit: they finally understood how to win the war against the USA.

Too bad the Commerce Department and KapitalistKarlRove don't really get it, yet.
16 posted on 11/22/2003 11:30:52 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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>China wants our jobs, our money, our manufacturing, our industrial power, our influence and power around the world. They have no desire for our freedom...

You may be right about their current government, but that and you don't speak for the Chinese people. I am optimistic enough to expect the people there will achieve freedom in the next 20 years.

17 posted on 11/22/2003 11:32:42 AM PST by chipengineer
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My new 17" LCD flat panel monitor was made in China.
Works great.
18 posted on 11/22/2003 1:41:24 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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It is, rat her, a virtual extension of the Communist Party and the government

Shouldn't it say "rather", or is "rat" as subtle message?
19 posted on 11/22/2003 1:53:38 PM PST by graycamel (Year of the Rat? or DemocRat?)
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20 posted on 11/22/2003 1:54:08 PM PST by graycamel
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