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Bombshell: Kobe Accuser Had Sex with Key Witness
The Globe ^
| 11/20/03
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Posted on 11/21/2003 11:44:43 AM PST by Smogger
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To: onyx
i am so hurt and crushed, you have no idea ; )
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posted on
11/21/2003 2:04:27 PM PST
by
xsmommy
To: Smogger
I just had a feeling early on in all this that this young woman and the bellhop had something going on, wasn't sure what, but this is not a surprise!
To: marajade
That was one judge's opinion.Well, he was the judge that mattered; you don't get to judge shop.
243
posted on
11/21/2003 2:05:06 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: Pukin Dog
Please quote any of my posts where I lean towards Kobe Bryant as being guilty.
To: Ceoman
The girl was examined. If she were menstruating it would have been noted. And there has been a hearing. The defense could have ASKED if that were a possible source if they thought they'd get an affirmative.
245
posted on
11/21/2003 2:05:12 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The evil is in plain sight")
To: Skywalk
An example of 1) would be the woman who started the Tailhook scandal by alleging a gang rape took place. It turned out she had a fiance and had participated in an orgy and didn't want him to find out she was a whore. I work with a guy who recently got married. When he was asked about whether he would have strippers or other female "entertainers" for his bachelor party, he said, "Hell no!" Why not? He learned from the mistake of a friend, who had the stereotypical Tom Hanks booze and bimbo fest. In the days afterward, one of the invitees/participants -- who had promised his wife that there wouldn't be any sex at the gathering -- had an attack of conscience, and tearfully spilled the beans to his missus about his activity at the party...as well as everyone else's.
The new marriage was put on life support when word got around, and died shortly thereafter.
If the woman who spouted false Tailhook allegations was lying to conceal her involvement in an orgy (I don't recall the details of the story, and they don't matter much when discussing Kobe anyway), that's easy to explain: There would be plenty of people who could say that she was a part of the action, and if any one of the participants said she was a willing sex partner, she would be toast in a variety of ways.
On the other hand, there was no one who witnessed the sex between Bryant and his accuser. If she made a choice to lie to her key witness about rape to cover up a consensual encounter with Bryant, she could have just said, "We were talking, and he was a perfect gentleman. Nothing happened, don't be silly," and no one could contradict her. Kobe, a notoriously secretive married superstar with a sparkling reputation, would never have walked into the lobby of the resort and said, "She's a great lay!"
Nice try.
246
posted on
11/21/2003 2:06:56 PM PST
by
L.N. Smithee
(Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
Comment #247 Removed by Moderator
To: Howlin
"Well, he was the judge that mattered; you don't get to judge shop."
Insofar as the case proceeding to trial.
It will be completely different when the case is presented to 12 jurors who may or may not have ever stepped in a courtroom before.
To: Howlin
And you are STILL mischaracterizing it; it plainly says "streaks," Gee, Howlin, I'm sorry. I said "smear" instead of "streak". I haven't had a chance to review the testimony but I fail to see how that "mischaracterizes" a damn thing.
249
posted on
11/21/2003 2:07:16 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The evil is in plain sight")
To: BlueNgold; All
I find it abhorant to take the attitude that a promiscuous woman cannot be a rape victim. Your ALL missing the point. It's irrelavent if she was promiscuous. It's HIGHLY relavent if she was romantic with the prosecution's STAR WITNESS!
250
posted on
11/21/2003 2:07:48 PM PST
by
Smogger
To: marajade
It will be completely different when the case is presented to 12 jurorsIf this article is any indication of what's coming down the road, you can rest assured that's a fact.
251
posted on
11/21/2003 2:07:56 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: cyncooper
Well, "as much as she bled" sure does.
252
posted on
11/21/2003 2:08:51 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: Howlin
And the lab said it was a transfer from another source. So if it was her blood on his shirt, and it was transferred, then if she had sex with someone else earlier and had blood on her person or clothing, it could have been from the prior sexual encounter.
Sounds like she's not fussy about what she has on her clothes, or when she changes them.
253
posted on
11/21/2003 2:09:17 PM PST
by
Lijahsbubbe
(Take my advice; I don't use it anyway.)
To: KantianBurke; Smogger
"Please indicate the thread and announcement in which Jim Robinson relaxed the house rules."
My vague recollection is that it was the same thread which started off with a photo of Jim Robinson pinning on your chest the covetted 12-pointed gold shield of the House Poster Police.....
(apologies to JimRob)
254
posted on
11/21/2003 2:09:18 PM PST
by
tracer
To: L.N. Smithee
If she made a choice to lie to her key witness about rape to cover up a consensual encounter with Bryant, she could have just said, "We were talking, and he was a perfect gentleman. Nothing happened, don't be silly," That's an interesting point. I may have jumped the gun on this bellhop thing. But, it will still do some damage to the procecution.
255
posted on
11/21/2003 2:10:04 PM PST
by
Strider
To: Smogger
"It's HIGHLY relavent if she was romantic with the prosecution's STAR WITNESS!"
She'll have to get on the stand and take an oath before God that it happened. How is it relevant?
To: Howlin
"If this article is any indication of what's coming down the road, you can rest assured that's a fact."
It may backfire.
To: Strider; Howlin
258
posted on
11/21/2003 2:12:18 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The evil is in plain sight")
To: Humbug
Great post, (233) but did you have to use the word 'thrust'?
259
posted on
11/21/2003 2:13:04 PM PST
by
Lijahsbubbe
(Take my advice; I don't use it anyway.)
To: marajade
How is it relevant? It's relevant, because it gives her a reason to lie. It's not a slam dunk, however. See L.N. Smitheess's post.
260
posted on
11/21/2003 2:13:53 PM PST
by
Strider
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