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Muslim Embarrassment "(T)heir entire civilization has a ‘Born to lose’ tattoo."
The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette ^ | November 9, 2003 | Bradley R. Gitz

Posted on 11/09/2003 8:40:45 AM PST by quidnunc

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To: Bon mots
Hillary is scary. But honestly I wouldn't put her in the same category as Marx and Engles. Marxism has killed tens of millions of people -- luckily the U. S. system of government as always resisted this ideology, and I expect it will do so in the future (no thanks to our esteemed friends in the other party).
41 posted on 11/09/2003 10:24:04 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: SauronOfMordor
The only job available to most educated Saudis, is to be exported to be the Wahhabist mullah of a mosque or maddrassa

Or wear a paper head covering and say, "You want hummus with that?"

42 posted on 11/09/2003 10:28:18 AM PST by Loyalist
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To: Astronaut
Well written. You'd get kicked off a college campus for saying it, but the truth is that Arab culture is inferior.

Well, it's not just Arab culture.
I can think of many off the top of my head both gone and present ones:

Arab, Amerindian, Sub-Saharan, most Oriental ones...

If all knowlege of all of them were to disappear tomorrow, I am firmly of the conviction that the civilized world's level of science, liberty, comfort and progress will not have changed one iota.

That, to me, makes them clearly and permanently inferior.
I don't really care how the savages managed to lift 150-ton rocks for their amusement.
I don't care if one had a calendar accurate for 450,000 years. I don't see too many space projects using the Mayan calendar.

Of course some civilizations and cultures are inferior.

That's why most of them no longer exist!

43 posted on 11/09/2003 10:28:53 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Multiculturalists will tell you that claims of cultural superiority are racist.

If using those faculties (the human intellect) that separate me from the lower animals make me racist, so be it.

Color me unapologetically and permanently racist.

Next lame argument, please.

44 posted on 11/09/2003 10:33:16 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Akira
"The Arab countries of the middle east sit on a black gold mine and have never seen any need to develop any other industry."

There HAVE been attempts by the more "enlightened" middle Eastern/Arab countries to develop other industries (specifically petrochemical). These have NOT been successes (despite large amounts of money invested) for exactly the reasons given in the article.

45 posted on 11/09/2003 10:38:15 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Floyd R Turbo
The Celts deliberately did not write these things down, not that they couldn't have. The learned from prior experience that secrecy was more important than documentation.

That is one of the most amazing intellectually bankrupt statements that I have ever heard.
But it does explain nicely why the "Celt" culture has not existed for almost two thousand years.

But it does raise a tantalizing issue. China fits this category somewhat.
In the book 1421 it is persuasively argued that Chinese ships circumnavigated the earth, a "mistake" which the Chinese culture attempted to erase.
That, together with many other achievement in all the sciences, should have made them the dominant culture on earth today.

What happened? Exactly the same mentality that is dooming the muslim culture: Hubris.

In the case of the Chinese, they once had a real culture to "protect".
In the case of the muslims, they are simply doomed to disappear because not only are they as a culture ignorant, but also delusional.

46 posted on 11/09/2003 10:42:49 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: battousai
I wouldn't say Arab culture per se, but what Arab culture has become due to Islam, before Islam the Arabs provided the world with some of the greatest mathematical, astronomical, and scientific knowledge (some borrowed from India of course).

I am not sure if this is a myth sustained by the sandmaggots themselves, or by the mindless PC idiots.

Historically, in every instance of Arab "achievement", the greatness exhibited in any given area was the result of exploiting skills and knowlege already existing in the conquered area.

The one clearly muslim characteristic in every case was that innovation, inventiveness, technical, scientific skills and intellectual inquiry came to a grinding halt.

Islam and all those things are permanently and irrevocably mutually exclusive. That's what a primitive, inflexible and ignorant religion does.

48 posted on 11/09/2003 10:56:44 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: 68skylark
Hillary is scary. But honestly I wouldn't put her in the same category as Marx and Engles.

My graphic actually depicts Marx, Lenin and Hillary. She is, after all, a radical Marxist - has been since college days.

49 posted on 11/09/2003 11:20:40 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Maria S
What an irony, given that there’s enough oil under their land to make everyone there quite well off. The “world’s most vulgar and brutal despots” of the Muslim world seem to know how to best control their natural resources, don’t they?

In the days/weeks following 9/11 the left was wringing their hands saying that we needed to give money to Afghanistan and the Middle East so that their people wouldn't live in poverty. Never mind that 5 of the world's 10 wealthiest individuals live in the Middle East. The money is there; these people instead live under wealthy monarchs and dictators who'd rather construct another 10 gold plated palaces.

Even today we hear the lies of the left that this was a war over oil so that American corporations can steal those oil dollars from the "downtrodden" Middle Easterners.

50 posted on 11/09/2003 11:29:40 AM PST by weegee
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To: Astronaut
Americans walked on the moon 34 years ago. Arabs still ride around on donkeys to this day.
51 posted on 11/09/2003 1:32:16 PM PST by rickmichaels (God bless America, land that I love.)
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To: quidnunc
Hey Quid,

Just to correct an error in the first line - Mahathir was the Prime Minister of Malaysia not Indonesia.

Mel

52 posted on 11/10/2003 3:04:34 AM PST by melsec
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To: haroldeveryman
An 8 year old statistic: 85 percent of Saudis attending Saudi universties major in "Islamic Studies".

That, and a dollar, will buy you a 20 oz. soda at the local convenience store. This is dangerous -- a large number of college grads either unemployed or underemployed because they majored in a field of study with no practical application. Their disappointment and frustration is far more likely to lead them to radical politics than someone who never went beyond the Saudi equivalent of the 5th grade and became a tent maker. That person doesn't expect much out of life. This isn't hypothetical -- during the 1970s, Italy had a big problem with the Red Brigade -- largely drawn from unemployed college grads.

Ironically enough, the Saudis are still importing large numbers of Europeans and Americans for management positions and Pakistanis for janitorial jobs.

53 posted on 11/10/2003 3:30:38 AM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: quidnunc
This was printed in a newspaper? Things in Arkansas are different than they are here in Massachusetts. Take Cambridge, please.
54 posted on 11/10/2003 5:14:55 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Loyalist
Even in its decadence, Western Europe is still superior culturally to the Muslims who will overtake its native population in another 100 years.

But cultures that let themselves be overrun by barbarians from outside aren't so superior --- political correctness is a very poor culture.

55 posted on 11/10/2003 5:35:03 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Siamese Princess
(This is dangerous -- a large number of college grads either unemployed or underemployed because they majored in a field of study with no practical application. Their disappointment and frustration is far more likely to lead them to radical politics than someone who never went beyond the Saudi equivalent of the 5th grade and became a tent maker.)

Excellent point about college grads. However, I would add that groups such as Fillipinos and Pakistanis have manned most of the skilled blue collar jobs in Saudi such as electronics technicians, plumbing, auto mechanics, etc.
56 posted on 11/12/2003 10:23:07 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: Qwinn
and more importantly what the other 19 out of 20 are studying?

Well there is Ahmed. "Ok, connect this wire to that." Kaboom! 1 down 18 to go.
57 posted on 11/12/2003 10:39:33 PM PST by jwh_Denver (Damn tagline, get off my leg!)
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