Posted on 11/06/2003 7:31:54 PM PST by republicanwizard
Similarly, several Europeans governments had envoys in the CSA during the War to look after their economic interests. Some of them, at least, were foreign nationals already living there. The CSA failed to get even one country to formally recognize its existence. The reason is simple; by doing so, the recognizing country would have necessarily endangered or lost its relationship with the legitimate government of the country.
Maybe not in the Journal of the (c)onfederate (c)ongress, but the letter appears in the Journal of the Confederate Congress. (Letter from Benjamin).
LOL. With all the paper and cardboard buildings in Toyko, they didn't need nukes, just a few thousand tons of WP.
Tokyo was virtually flattened in a series of missions that included the March 9-10, 1945 incendiary raid in which an estimated 80,000 to 120,000 Japanese perished (more than in any other raid of the war, including the two atomic bomb attacks).
It is interesting that Davis chose the Bishop of Charleston for the job. Afterall, Lynch was, in effect, the Pope's "emissary" to the Catholic of South Carolina. One of Lynch's main duties was to work with the Catholic countries of Europe, especially Ireland, to turn off the spigot of Catholics flowing into the United States. He was largely successful.
After the war, the Church did harbor several former Confederate envoys. I believe they negotiated a pardon for Lynch. Of course, the Church harbored Noriega of Panama too.
So it appears that Mr. Benjamin admits that, with the sole exception of SaxeCoberg, none of these counsel are accredited by the confederate government, but instead held their offices through the U.S. government. This would indicate that none of those foreign governments recognized the confederacy as a sovereign nation, otherwise they would seek accreditation from the Davis regime, and would be in keeping with the global understanding that the confederate states were nothing more than a rebellious section of the U.S.
On the other hand it seems that SaxeCoberg seems to have thought that Texas was independent, something that I doubt the Davis regime would have agreed with.
Lynch was also appointed to a specific role, ambassador to the Vatican. Davis even sent papers to Antonelli informing the cardinal of this specified appointment. Thus Lynch was something more than an ambassador-at-large, also possessing a specific charge to conduct the CSA's treaties with the pope.
It is interesting that Davis chose the Bishop of Charleston for the job.
It is both interesting and insightful to the relations existing between the CSA and Catholic church. That a bishop would accept both a diplomatic appointment from the CSA and simultaneously serve as an intermediary between the CSA and Vatican as a representative of both is in itself telling of a far more formalized and existing relationship between the two than simply sending a diplomat would convey.
One of Lynch's main duties was to work with the Catholic countries of Europe, especially Ireland, to turn off the spigot of Catholics flowing into the United States. He was largely successful.
He was also aided greatly by the letter Pius issued to Davis and subsequent letters from Antonelli, which generally condemned the warfare being waged by the north.
After the war, the Church did harbor several former Confederate envoys. I believe they negotiated a pardon for Lynch.
IIRC, Lynch was at the Vatican when Lee surrendered. The Vatican did indeed fight to secure him safe passage back to his seat in Charleston, as it rightfully should have.
If so, why was the application for exequatur (new word for me) made to the Confederate Government?
I've no idea. Perhaps he also requested an exequatur from the U.S. government as well?
From Bouvier's Law Dictionary,, Rev. 6th ed., (1856):EXEQUATUR, internat. law. A declaration made by the executive of a government near to which a consul has been nominated and appointed, after such nomination and appointment has been notified, addressed to the people, in which is recited [written] the appointment of the foreign state, and that the executive having approved of the consul as such, commands all the citizens to receive, countenance, and, as there may be occasion, favorably assist the consul in the exercise of his place, giving and allowing him all the privileges, immunities, and advantages, thereto belonging.
Regardless, it still gets back to the question of whether or not the counsel also applied for exequatur from the U.S. government. The other counsels did not apply for an exequatur from the Davis regime. Clearly they did not view it as a legitimate government. If the government of Saxe Coburg applied for an exequatur for Mr. Raven only from the Davis regime then that may be the indication of recognition that you guys have been searching in vain for. But if the government of Saxe Coburg applied for an exequatur from both the Davis regime AND the Lincoln administration then its more an indication of them recognizing that the rebellion had muddied the waters and that they were just covering all their bases to ensure that Mr. Raven could carry on his duties of looking after the interests of the German nationals in Texas.
they are EXACTLY the same as the Holocaust denyers.
that too is FACT!
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no less a person than GEN McArthur said that Tokyo should NOT be bombed with nukes as it was a CIVILIAN target of little intrinsic miltary value.
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NO?
i thought NOT.
AFTER you've read the book, come back here and tell me what YOU think the preface and chapter 4 means. then if you're man enough, admit openly that you were either ignorant of the facts or an outright liar.
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Again you're full of it. Mac didn't even know the bomb existed until they used it. No one ever asked him where or when to use it. He NEVER said Tokyo was a 'civilian" target, because it wasn't. There were war production factories spread all throughout the city -- thousands of them.
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