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The Neocon Thing: Myths, facts and the 'Jewish flavor' of neoconservatives.
The Baltimore Jewish Times ^ | October 31, 2003 | Neil Rubin

Posted on 11/04/2003 2:39:31 PM PST by quidnunc

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"Neocon has become a preoccupation, an over-preoccupation, in the media and as well as the political spectrum of the left," says Mr. Foxman. "Where it will go now I don't know. But I think most political observers see a shift to conservatism and to the right and to the Republican Party [in the Jewish community]. How significant? How long will it last? Will it be a function of Bush and Israel? I don't know. But from my perspective I believe we, the Jewish people, are very smart, as everyone thinks we are. So we should be voting 45-55 and every couple of years shift and then everyone will take us more seriously. Eighty to 90 on side and 10 to 20 on the other side doesn't get you far. One side takes you for granted and the other one doesn't pay attention."

Neocons have become a preoccupation — almost to the point of being a monomania — of the paleocon wingnuts too.

1 posted on 11/04/2003 2:39:32 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
I was "informed" by a few on FR that "NEOCON" is Leftist codespeak for Jewish voters who have left the platation and dared to support George The Enemy.
2 posted on 11/04/2003 2:48:00 PM PST by Old Sarge (Serving You... on Operation Noble Eagle!)
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To: Old Sarge
I think they just figured out who the enemy really is.
3 posted on 11/04/2003 2:56:54 PM PST by Evil Inc
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To: Evil Inc
I think they just figured out who the enemy really is.

And fear it is not us, the US. That scares them.

4 posted on 11/04/2003 3:03:03 PM PST by Shermy
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To: quidnunc
America The Good
5 posted on 11/04/2003 3:07:18 PM PST by onedoug
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To: quidnunc
Read my posts over time, and you will get a sense of the sensibility of a neocon. I mean it.
6 posted on 11/04/2003 4:09:02 PM PST by Torie
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To: quidnunc
Perhaps the only certainty about neocons is this: They're not liberal CONSERVATIVE.
8 posted on 11/04/2003 4:32:50 PM PST by chudogg (http://chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: CodeMonkey
I have never met a Jew who wasn't a statist to the core

Probably not too many Jews in IDAHO?

9 posted on 11/04/2003 4:34:29 PM PST by chudogg (http://chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: chudogg
Actually, Virginia.
10 posted on 11/04/2003 4:38:54 PM PST by CodeMonkey
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To: Shermy; Evil Inc
Neocon is total codespeak.

It merely means that someone, not previously even dreaming of voting for a Republican candidate from anything from dogcatcher on up, suddenly sees the light. I.E., that his former love, the Democrat Party, is a danger to his family, himself, and his nation. This can happen when a hippie buys a house, or a media guy gets faked out of a promotion in favor of some Affirmative Action Clymer. Or, in the classic NYC scenario, gets his left-drooping ass mugged.

Yeah, there's a Jewish Factor. Many Jews suddenly realized that the Left, of which they were such a prominent part, was willing to sell Israel down the river and was blindly in love with the "Palestinian" cause. So, they make common cause with the Republicans. In all the above cases, "Neocons" find a lot they don't like about the Republican Party.

Cheer up, Neocons, Enlightened self-interest requires some sacrifice.

11 posted on 11/04/2003 6:49:08 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Kenny Bunk
Neocons are anti-communist, distrustful of government social programs, distrustful of the UN, free-trade, for high levels of legal immigration.
They believe that America is a propositional nation.
12 posted on 11/04/2003 11:04:05 PM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
13 posted on 11/05/2003 7:28:01 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Not one damn word about honorary Jews.

I'm relegated to the B list again.

14 posted on 11/05/2003 7:46:27 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: chudogg
I know a ton of "Jewish" libertarians
15 posted on 11/05/2003 7:48:57 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: quidnunc
"Neocon has become a preoccupation, an over-preoccupation, in the media and as well as the political spectrum of the left,"

And so it is as the Kultur/Culture War is raging. Ask Habermas, Jameison and students and the Deans of Postmodernism and "Critical Theory" and Neoconservatism is a major word in their cultural, economic, and world political vocabulary.

The media is largely in the camp of the Postmodern Left. Many are useful idiots drawing handsome paychecks without really thinking of what they aren doing and while their so-called counterpart "intellectuals" continue betraying the common man who by chance and circumstance was not given the same privledges.

16 posted on 11/05/2003 7:53:26 AM PST by Helms (Liberalism is condescension at best and subjegation at worst.)
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To: Catspaw
Not one damn word about honorary Jews...I'm relegated to the B list again.

Neocon in different, you have to be controlled by the Jews to qualify.

17 posted on 11/05/2003 8:13:11 AM PST by SJackson
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To: quidnunc
Good article. One problem:

These are the isolationist paleocons, the group whose most visible figures include Pat Buchanan, Noam Chomsky and Robert Novak — none being a particular favorite to win the Anti-Defamation League's Person of the Year Award.

Chomsky may be many things, but he is not a paleocon. He's part of the far left.

18 posted on 11/05/2003 8:16:08 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: SJackson
Neocon in different, you have to be controlled by the Jews to qualify.

Is this one of those world domination, international conspiracy thingies again?

19 posted on 11/05/2003 8:18:52 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; ...
"Is this one of those world domination, international conspiracy thingies again?"

Why, yes indeedie. They got their hooks in me when various Mossad and Shin Bet agents on FR started posting graphic pictures of the corpses of Israeli citizens on buses and in discos. How could this be when the TeeVee and mainstream media tells me the Israeli government is brutally oppressing the po' "Palistinian" people?

Hey, did you know the first moon landing was all staged? Yeah, at that Area 51 facility!

Really!  !

20 posted on 11/05/2003 9:39:53 AM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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