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Fight over woman's feeding tube leaves husband's life in limbo (Terri Schiavo)
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | Nov. 1, 2003 | Abby Goodnough , NYT

Posted on 11/02/2003 9:47:19 AM PST by FairOpinion

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To: Hildy
What's that got to do with anything? It's all coming out of the same pot.

True, i bet she has Social Security Disability. That would pay for it.
Why is she in a hospice anyway? She is not terminal unless she is starved to death.

81 posted on 11/02/2003 1:09:18 PM PST by carenot
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To: tessalu
Again, is it the way she's scheduled to leave the earth? If you're against her dying, then what's the difference abotu how they plan on doing it. Why even make it an issue.
82 posted on 11/02/2003 1:11:49 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Chocolate Rose
Don't you find that odd?

83 posted on 11/02/2003 1:12:47 PM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: Hildy
>>Things like this that are said years later are truly not reliable.

Unless they are Michael Schiavo statements, eh? Like the one about Terri saying "no tubes for me."

My next remarks are not to convince you, but rather to demonstrate to anyone still in any doubt, that you will not be convinced...
Imagine your husband dies without leaving a will. You stand to inherit the whole million dollars. But along comes his brother saying, "He told me he wanted ME to have it all." The brother's wife swears she heard this too, on another occasion. Throw in a sister too. But nobody else ever heard it. Should they get the inheritance on this basis?
84 posted on 11/02/2003 1:14:58 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: Uncle George
"FOR BETTER or for WORST, For RICHER or for POORER, IN SICKNESS and in HEALTH !!!!!!!"

Okay, I'll buy that, but could you please tell me where adultery fits into those vows?

And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her."(Mark 10:11)

Heck, he didn't even bother to put her away OR to marry the other woman. Instead he dishonors both of them.
"Jesus said, "Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery.."(Matt. 19:18)

Seems to me that Mikey has a real problem for himself no matter what at this point. Scripture is quite clear that fornication is an acceptable reason for for divorce....but I believe that is referring to your spouse committing adultery against YOU. I really don't think Terri has been sleeping around.
85 posted on 11/02/2003 1:19:49 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: ClancyJ
>>On top of this - we have all the denial of medical reports and information on her condition to the parents, denial of visits.

What possible reason could he have, to prevent her parents from viewing her medical records?
86 posted on 11/02/2003 1:24:16 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: carenot
>>Why is she in a hospice anyway? She is not terminal unless she is starved to death.

I keep hearing this. On LKL, Felos said that it is legal to have her in the hospice because PVS is considered a terminal condition. So they hired doctors to diagnose her PVS, and they put her in the hospice.
87 posted on 11/02/2003 1:28:47 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: Hildy
One of the things nobody has ever discussed is why there was a malpractice suit in the first place.

Yes, there was. He said the doctors did not diagnois her illness right.
He needed the momey to take care of her untill he died. He said he loved her forever. The judge let him take some of Terri's money to go to school so he could tend to her at home.

Well he did, then he got the Judge to agree to pay the lawyer out of her money, to get her starved to death.

88 posted on 11/02/2003 1:28:57 PM PST by carenot
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To: Left_Coast_Conservative
Poor MS maybe we should starve him to death in kindness to put him out of his misery!!

MCD
89 posted on 11/02/2003 1:28:58 PM PST by MSCASEY
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To: FITZ
>That's why I think living wills are pretty risky --- what if you change your mind but your heirs won't let you?

I have the same gut feeling. Where did the concept of living wills come from anyway? From George Felos and Company. The pro-death camp. Living wills are fraught with risk of abuse.

Now we have a bunch of people in their 20's handing out these documents to their friends and relatives, no counselling, nothing. Do they even read these things before they sign them? How do they know a decision they make in their 20's would be the same one they would make in their 40's, 50's, 60's, etc.? My life has changed dramatically in the last twenty five years and my values are not the same as in the past, and that is true with most people. With the level of violence in our society we're going to see more cases like Terri's, whether people have living wills or not.

90 posted on 11/02/2003 1:29:44 PM PST by deannadurbin
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To: FairOpinion
He wants to remove her feeding tube, paving the way for her death against the wishes of her parents and supporters who have rallied to their cause.

For this, Schiavo, 40, has been depicted as a heartless fiend.

DUH!!!!!!!!!

91 posted on 11/02/2003 1:33:05 PM PST by Gone_Postal
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To: carenot
>>He said yes he had one little girl with his new honey but negleted to say she was fixin to pop another. She did a day or so later.

Here we have a man who is willing to have his children be born out of wedlock just to protect his own hide. I don't believe anyone who cheats on his legal wife has any "ethics" at all. Live in hunny should demand that Michael divorce Terri and marry her, and make her children legitimate, or she will leave him and take the kids.

But you know what would happen then. This man has a temper and he would go after her to take his revenge. This woman must be living in a dream world and have no sense of self-esteem at all.

92 posted on 11/02/2003 1:37:54 PM PST by deannadurbin
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To: Cicero
I have wondered if that emergency room has a higher death rate when Schiavo is working than when he is off duty.

Also, he surely seems to take off a lot of time from his emergency-room work.
93 posted on 11/02/2003 1:39:59 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: RGSpincich
The malpractice jury held Terri 70% responsible for her own collapse and subsequent vegetative state.

Yes, that is true.

He said the ob/gyn was responsible for not noticing she had bulimia.He was awarded a lot of money, because he had lost his whatever.

94 posted on 11/02/2003 1:40:51 PM PST by carenot
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To: Hildy
Do you have any proof that your comments are based on fact? If not, does that not mean that you are using emotions in your comments the same as we who are trying to save Terri's life are?
95 posted on 11/02/2003 1:41:03 PM PST by trussell (PRAYER WORKS!!)
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To: FITZ
Schiavo now has the Medicaid people paying for the hospice though hospice rules say that no one can be admitted unless they are certified to be in their last six months of earthly life. He must have his property in someone else's name so he can qualify as "poor."

Well, he is surely not poor in money, but he is "poor in spirit."
96 posted on 11/02/2003 1:44:23 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: texaslil
I think you are correct. Terri's rehabilitation fund, in a community-property state, would receive half of everything Schiavo owns if he divorced here. That alone is his financial reason for eschweing a divorce. So it is all about the money!!!!
97 posted on 11/02/2003 1:45:59 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: texaslil
Terri may just be entitled to half of everything he owns, including the new house he bought with "his" half of the settlement money. Understand it has a pool and he drives a BMW.

The house and other stuff is in his girlfriend's name.

98 posted on 11/02/2003 1:46:33 PM PST by carenot
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To: MHGinTN; Hildy
Actually, MHG, Hildy may not have a "cold" heart. She just doesn't mind seeing a disabled person starved and dehydrated. I bet she would feel differently if it were she in Terri's bed!
99 posted on 11/02/2003 1:47:09 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: pickyourpoison
To borrow the words of Bonnie Chernin Rogoff...
"Michael Schiavo is a cruel, evil man who stinks with the decadence of greed. His perfunctory assessment of his wife´s life can be summed up in one sentence: Better dead than fed."
100 posted on 11/02/2003 1:48:58 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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