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WHAT ON EARTH HAS HAPPENED TO CANADA?
Le Quebecois Libre ^ | October 25, 2003 | Chris Leithner

Posted on 11/01/2003 1:11:37 PM PST by sourcery

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To: Sunsong
I’ve always thought there should be minimum IQ level for people to belong to FR. If there were, I’d be at FR by myself and you would be someplace alone, pulling wings off flies and making nasty comments about Wayne Gretzky…

” You have not responded to anything that I have said”

You haven’t said anything except to prattle on about how awful “socialist” Canada is. I notice you were afraid to respond to my pointed questions and facts regarding trade. Why am I not surprised.

”Do you prefer that we NOT have tedious checks on our borders??? Do you prefer that we are just "trust" Canada to radically change and start caring about terrorists???”

Given the economic reality regarding our two nations trade (a fact you can’t seem to come to terms with) why should checks be “tedious”? Shouldn’t they be thorough and efficient instead? Since we have already made great changes at the border, why are you still whining?. Finally how many of the 19 WTC bombers came though Canada? If you answered zero, give yourself a big, shiny, gold star.

”The same Canada that calls our President a moron and us Americans "bastards"?”

This is a specious and cowardly argument. Canada did not call the president a moron – a minor Canadian official did – and she lost her job. Many Americans think he’s a moron as well – should we boycott products from states where this criticism is prevalent?

”For whatever reason you think you are "entitled" to come onto a conservative American site and tell people that they should "learn" from you and socialist countries like Canada.”

Since I am an American conservative and member of this forum for over three years, I have every right to be here, and I have every right to point out stupidity when it raises its ugly head. Being a conservative does NOT mean belittling neighbors because they aren’t exactly like us – it means – like our President has said, embracing compassionate conservatism..

Buy yourself a clue and focus you rage where it should be aimed – at the heinous abomination known as islam – the real threat to our civilization…

61 posted on 11/03/2003 6:48:43 PM PST by Dr. Luv
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To: Dr. Luv
As I Say, the only one who is being vicious here, is you -- but that is MO of liberals, isn't it? You still have not responded to what I have said. Have you ever really studied the founding of America and what we are about? How would you "define" conservatism?

"I’ve always thought there should be minimum IQ level for people to belong to FR. If there were, I’d be at FR by myself and you would be someplace alone, pulling wings off flies and making nasty comments about Wayne Gretzky…"

Do you think you could be more vile? Apparently you really can't deal with people who disagree with you and, as liberals do, have decided to start making personal attacks to try and change the subject.

You haven’t said anything except to prattle on about how awful “socialist” Canada is. I notice you were afraid to respond to my pointed questions and facts regarding trade. Why am I not surprised."

That's not true. Go back and read my posts. And I'm curious, how is it that you know what emotion I am feeling? How is it that you determined I was "afraid" to respond to your statement about trade? Canada is 87% dependent on America for Her economy. Funny that you never mentioned that. You seem to think that Americans should be grateful that Canada is our largest trading partner, but you aren't holding Canadians to the same standard. Shouldn't Canadians be thanking us at every opportunity for the prosperity we bring and allow them?

"Given the economic reality regarding our two nations trade (a fact you can’t seem to come to terms with) why should checks be “tedious”? Shouldn’t they be thorough and efficient instead? Since we have already made great changes at the border, why are you still whining?. Finally how many of the 19 WTC bombers came though Canada? If you answered zero, give yourself a big, shiny, gold star."

Once again, you not telling the truth. I'm not still whining. I didn't bring up the subject -- you did. But, of course, what are facts to someone who has closed their mind to other ideas? Thorough and efficient *and* effective is fine with me. But I ask you, since you didn't respond -- are you suggesting that we just "trust" Canada -- the same Canada that tells us they are "morally superiour" to us because they are more socialist?

"This is a specious and cowardly argument. Canada did not call the president a moron – a minor Canadian official did – and she lost her job. Many Americans think he’s a moron as well – should we boycott products from states where this criticism is prevalent?"

Wrong again. It is simply the truth. There is a difference between what government officials say and what regular citizens say. Can you imagine the liberal response if Condoleeza Rice said that Chretien was "corrupt"? Canada couldn't even bring themselves to speak, let alone act, on our behalf during the Iraq war. That's pretty low, imo.

"Since I am an American conservative and member of this forum for over three years, I have every right to be here, and I have every right to point out stupidity when it raises its ugly head. Being a conservative does NOT mean belittling neighbors because they aren’t exactly like us – it means – like our President has said, embracing compassionate conservatism."

Please tell me what "conservative" means to you. I have said what I think. Please tell me some "conservative" views that you hold. Being "conservative" does not mean that you try and squash people who are expressing their opinion. Being conservative does not mean that you enter a "conservative" American site and tell them that they must be politically correct by liberal standards. It seems to me that you are trying to stop discussion by telling people that they shouldn't hold the views that they do. It seems to me that you are trying to stop free expression by telling people that since there is money to be made by trading with Canada, nothing else matters.

I repeat again, you may benefit from learning from us conservatives instead of trying to "enlighten" us with your liberal views...

"Buy yourself a clue and focus you rage where it should be aimed – at the heinous abomination known as islam – the real threat to our civilization…"

Again, how are you determining my emotional state? It seems to me that you make a lot of assumptions. Are you aware that it is not "PC" to call Islam an abomination? Wouldn't it be more "compassionate" to limit your rage toward "militant Islam" and not the over one billion people who belong to the religion? Isn't your sweeping generalization of Islam just another variety of the idea you claim to be "teaching" us low lives here? Or are you just another liberal who doesn't practive what he preaches?

62 posted on 11/03/2003 7:40:23 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
As someoneone with a busy medical practice, I don't have time to respond to people who are only interested in circular arguments and the ol' "If you don't agree with me then you're not a conservative" canard. I don't mean to sound pompous, but the reality is that you're not smart enough to debate me. Best of luck in your "Hate Canada" campaign...
63 posted on 11/04/2003 4:56:15 AM PST by Dr. Luv
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To: Dr. Luv
"I don't have time to respond"

More likely, the truth is that you are unable to respond and so are trying to justify your exit. You have not responded to what I have said, not even to define conservatism, which any intelligent person could do.

"I don't mean to sound pompous, but the reality is that you're not smart enough to debate me."

I have read a number of your vicious posts to people you disagree with and your response is always the same: you are highly intelligent and they are stupid. You do come across as pompous and truth be told, you do not come across as having superior intelligence. You come across as a bully, someone who enjoys belittling and putting down others. It is sad, in a way, to see you do the very things that you are telling others they shouldn't.

You make a sweeping generalization about Islam and from the other side of your mouth you think you have some kind of moral authority to lecture people and even feel "entitled" to bully them if they make sweeping generalizations about Canada.

It is my opinion that you could really benefit from some serious self-examination and personal change. Probably also dropping the name "Dr. Luv" -- you obviously are not a loving person. You are doing more harm for your cause than you understand with your rudeness and meanness.

64 posted on 11/04/2003 10:14:39 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: jodorowsky
bttt
65 posted on 11/06/2003 5:59:05 PM PST by freeforall ("London, Ontario growing more socialist by the day'')
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